Star Trek VACATION

[AndrewLyon 0]

I was working on a post for another thread in here, when after I saw it. I realized how off topic I had gone. However, I figured that it was good enough for its own thread.

 

I have been a science-fiction fan since before I was potty trained. Some might consider Transformers childess Sci-Fiction, but unless you see a semi turn into a robot recently. I think thats science fiction. After a little experience IRL, I realized something. I think Star Trek needs a break. I will be watching this thread a bit, as I take my first vacation in nearly 3 years.

 

Star Trek hit the air wave nearly 40 years ago. With the promise of Stange new worlds, and new civilizations. It delivered that, and more. As a fan of the show, I like the idea of some ship in Kirks era, or a second shot at the TOS with replacement actors. (Maybe a Guest spot by some of the original crew) Problem is the people who make Trek, Trek. The writters for that part. Are tried. I have written some massive logs in my day. (Over 100 pages for a 3 Part Story Arch) Some of these people have been working since the 80s on it. People wonder why the franchise has gone down hill. Think of some writter who has been pounding the keyboard for this franchise since Encounter at Farpoint, to the end of Enterprise.

 

Remeber, the writters are the ones who have to make the show work. The people on top hand them the bible, and they run with it. This tried writters syndrom is not only connected to Trek. Anyone who looks at the box office, can see the drop off of people going to the movies. Thoses who do not see those figures, look at all the remakes, or the TV shows becoming movies.

 

I think Trek as a franchise needs to shut down for 5-10 years. This way the writters can goto other shows, and learn, grow. I have posted this before, so I apologize for the repation. When the new show/movie (Yes my halting of production goes to movies also), consult with some of the better writters. Over the years the fans have made it clear with money, which authors they like for Star Trek. Bring in the good writters from the other shows also. (Mind you anyone who wrote on Voyager should not be called in) Yes, some new writters in the entertaintment industy at the time might not be invited. We will loose other writters to old age, or acts of god. However, when those people do meet, they will be able to produce something respectable. Something that maybe we will feel proud to call Trek again. Mind you, Enterprise was good I feel, but Paramount killed it due to business.

 

As a fan of the show, I am wondering if you agree with the idea of a vacation for the trek franchise. Keep the books and other merchandise out there, but no new cannon materail for a few years.

[Travis Kroells 0]

2 Cents:

 

Let Star Trek die. I've got enough other series to be happy with. SG-1, Atlantis, Firefly, Battle Star Galactica, and numerous others.

 

I'm not a Trek fan, I just happen to be a trek roleplayer.

[Atragon9 0]

I've got enough other series to be happy with.  SG-1, Atlantis, Firefly, Battle Star Galactica, and numerous others.

 

Okay, who wants to be the one to break it to Travis that Firefly has a total of 14 episodes and will only be shown if SciFi brings it off the shelf for some special reason (like pushing the movie). It's about 85 episodes short of any syndication possibilities and being the realist, I would say that the chances of it returning as episodic Sci Fi are about as good as "Enterprise" coming back for more shows.

 

That's not one to keep you happy about current Sci Fi on TV.

 

[Seiben 0]

I'd say give it 5 years or so. Let Star Trek rest a little bit, then hopefully, writers will have more good ideas to put into a new good Star Trek series worth watching.

Edited August 1, 2005 by Seiben

[eagle 0]

Okay, who wants to be the one to break it to Travis that Firefly has a total of 14 episodes and will only be shown if SciFi brings it off the shelf for some special reason (like pushing the movie). It's about 85 episodes short of any syndication possibilities and being the realist, I would say that the chances of it returning as episodic Sci Fi are about as good as "Enterprise" coming back for more shows.

 

That's not one to keep you happy about current Sci Fi on TV.

 

however 1 aug 2005 is a great trek tos day on sci-fi channel yyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwww ;) :D :lol:

 

you all should know where i will be :D

[Travis Kroells 0]

I dont care if theres only 14 epps, I watch em over and over. I've been watching the 24 eppisodes of Cowboy Bebop for god knows how long.

[Laehval tTemarr 0]

Okay, who wants to be the one to break it to Travis that Firefly has a total of 14 episodes and will only be shown if SciFi brings it off the shelf for some special reason (like pushing the movie).  It's about 85 episodes short of any syndication possibilities and being the realist, I would say that the chances of it returning as episodic Sci Fi are about as good as "Enterprise" coming back for more shows.

 

That's not one to keep you happy about current Sci Fi on TV.

 

Say what you want about me!

Go ahead ... talk about my Mama!

Feel free to bash my characters any day of the week!

But PLEASE don't talk about my Firefly!

 

The mention of so few episodes gets me get all misty-eyed. ::Sniffle::

;)

 

September 30th is just around the corner!

http://www.serenitymovie.com/

 

International Trailer: http://www.uip.nl/Pictures/seren/trailer2.mov

[Travis Kroells 0]

"If someone tries to kill them you try and kill them right back!"

 

::weeps::

[Ramdar Goftar 0]

I would definatly wait five to ten just because that was the problem with the last series wasnt it it came out too fast

[WesleyMustDie 0]

Actually the real problem was Rick Berman trying to rewrite the Trek timeline to fit his dream rather than Roddenberry's.

[eagle 0]

Actually the real problem was Rick Berman trying to rewrite the Trek timeline to fit his dream rather than Roddenberry's.

amen & amen.......by the way ...st generations, and first contact are on the scifi channel tonight........yyyyyyyyyyeeeesssssssssss... ;) :lol: :D

[Kestra 0]

Andrew, where's the 1-5 years option? I think that's the time frame I'd like to see some new Trek appear in, although I'm willing to wait much longer.

[Cougar 0]

How long would I wait? I'd say I'd go crazy in about around 4 years from now. How long do I think the wait will be? However long the people at Viacom and Paramount are in charge. Possibly 5-10 years.

I'd like a new trek series right now, however I'd say a year's rest will suffice. Besides, we'll have ST XI in like 2 years(hopefully). I wish Enterprise would return, but it's definitely not going to happen ;)

[FredM 0]

Hey there,

 

I believe a few years would be long enough. I think the next series will need to have a more "down and dirty" approach. Am I talking about doing a remake like Battlestar Galactica? No. However, I do think the next series should be shot in a "realistic" fashion similiar to the one used by Space: Above & Beyond and Battlestar Galactica.

 

As to timeline, personally, I think they need to avoid the TNG/DS9/VOY era. It has simply been played to death. I think there is some serious potential for a series set immediately pre-TOS...perhaps following Captain Robert April and crew. I think even a series set aboard another non-Enterprise starship during the TOS era would be great. Or even a series set anytime between the gap of Star Trek: The Motion Picture and the four months that Star Trek II, III, IV, V made up within the timeline.

 

Another possiblity might be a series set twenty to thirty years into the 25th Century, but I think the further ahead you go...more danger you have of loosing your core audience. I think using a series in one of the many "gaps" of Trek timeline would be a way to bring back TOS fans and recent incarnation fans. It was something the final season of Star Trek: Enterprise was doing, and if that had been their first season may have been successful with.

[eagle 0]

Hey there,

 

I believe a few years would be long enough. I think the next series will need to have a more "down and dirty" approach. Am I talking about doing a remake like Battlestar Galactica? No. However, I do think the next series should be shot in a "realistic" fashion similiar to the one used by Space: Above & Beyond and Battlestar Galactica.

 

As to timeline, personally, I think they need to avoid the TNG/DS9/VOY era. It has simply been played to death. I think there is some serious potential for a series set immediately pre-TOS...perhaps following Captain Robert April and crew. I think even a series set aboard another non-Enterprise starship during the TOS era would be great. Or even a series set anytime between the gap of Star Trek: The Motion Picture and the four months that Star Trek II, III, IV, V made up within the timeline.

 

Another possiblity might be a series set twenty to thirty years into the 25th Century, but I think the further ahead you go...more danger you have of loosing your core audience. I think using a series in one of the many "gaps" of Trek timeline would be a way to bring back TOS fans and recent incarnation fans. It was something the final season of Star Trek: Enterprise was doing, and if that had been their first season may have been successful with.

in total agreeance........nuff said... ;)

[Murdok Helios 0]

We need a blockbuster about the Dominion War.

Yes! The dominion wars was one of the best story lines every! Theres something about seeing 30 ships flying arcoss the screen in a battle that makes me happy.

[eagle 0]

Yes! The dominion wars was one of the best story lines every! Theres something about seeing 30 ships flying arcoss the screen in a battle that makes me happy.

yes but it wont,t save you on car insurance.......get gekko :lol: ;) :D

[Kestra 0]

As to timeline, personally, I think they need to avoid the TNG/DS9/VOY era. It has simply been played to death. I think there is some serious potential for a series set immediately pre-TOS...perhaps following Captain Robert April and crew. I think even a series set aboard another non-Enterprise starship during the TOS era would be great. Or even a series set anytime between the gap of Star Trek: The Motion Picture and the four months that Star Trek II, III, IV, V made up within the timeline.

 

Another possiblity might be a series set twenty to thirty years into the 25th Century, but I think the further ahead you go...more danger you have of loosing your core audience.

It's funny, because I never really got into TOS or any of those movies and that's probably why I'm so attached to the TNG/DS9/VOY era. I think it's also one of the reasons I didn't get into Enterprise (among other things, of course). I'd be much more likely to watch something in Voyager's future rather than in TNG's past myself. Then again, if it was Trek I'd give it a chance no matter what it was.

[Avery Tynte 0]

I'm in agreeance with Kestra, I would give anything Trek a chance, but I'm more likely to enjoy something set futuristic, then pre TOS.

[Cougar 0]

I'm in agreeance with Kestra, I would give anything Trek a chance, but I'm more likely to enjoy something set futuristic, then pre TOS.

I am too however just like Fred said, if they go too far they may lose viewers. The farther into the future, the more developed technology. Sure we'll see tech that looks better than VOY/DS9 era's but stuff would be a lot easier. They may always have the answer because they have superior technology.

[Chell Reno 0]

I am too however just like Fred said, if they go too far they may lose viewers. The farther into the future, the more developed technology. Sure we'll see tech that looks better than VOY/DS9 era's but stuff would be a lot easier. They may always have the answer because they have superior technology.

That is a possibility. but then again with that new technoalogy their might also be new story line ideas or new responsibilities that comes with the new stuff thus creating a vast new potential.

 

Say if the federation stoped useing phasers and started useing turbo lasers...... or a death star......

 

Ok maby not but you get the idea.

 

Reno

[AndrewLyon 0]

One of the things you could do with Star Trek TOS, is place the story in normal fiction, and it would work, for the most part. ((Some stories would not work in ficition at all, and I know that)) Which is why again, I say the writters need a break. Maybe send them on a $100K world vacation.

[eagle 0]

One of the things you could do with Star Trek TOS, is place the story in normal fiction, and it would work, for the most part.  ((Some stories would not work in ficition at all, and I know that)) Which is why again, I say the writters need a break. Maybe send them on a $100K world vacation.

holland america 96 days around the world cruise.....is great......should suffice.....need i say more :lol: :D :wub:

Edited August 10, 2005 by eagle