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No Seat belts on StarShips!

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You know what i have always wonderd, if they know that they will likley have combat in space why not intall seat belts? I mean you are always seeing people fly across the room in Star Trek. Install seat belts or somthing like them.

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I think we've all wondered that. Dramatic effect, maybe?

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Well...If the computers on the bridge explode...wouldn't you want our dear crew to be able to run to safety, instead of having to fiddle with the seatbelt to get out.

 

Smitty

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Well...If the computers on the bridge explode...wouldn't you want our dear crew to be able to run to safety, instead of having to fiddle with the seatbelt to get out.

 

Smitty

which raises point #2 -- the consoles on the bridge are always exploding. Has the 24th century forgotten about a little thing called surge protection?

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WOnce the computer sences a surge, the seat bealts are unlocked, it is the 24th after all ;)

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But the main characters don't need silly things like seatbelts and surge protectors. They've got the advanced technology of plot shields to protect them! ;)

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which raises point #2 -- the consoles on the bridge are always exploding. Has the 24th century forgotten about a little thing called surge protection?

Not to mention the fact that we see those console explode with enough apparent amperage to kill people. ;)

 

According to Star Trek: The Magazine, there was a deleted scene in Star Trek: Nemesis with Captain Picard's chair and seatbelts.

...he presses a button and seatbelts fly into position, holding him firmly in place.  Surprised, Picard smiles, "About time."

Stuart Baird cut it because apparently he thought "it took away from the emotional impact of Data's death."

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It was an amusing scene though...

 

However, I can see why they wouldn't need seatbelts (though when the Excelscior prepared for transwarp jump they all had restraints of some sort) they do after all have inertial dampers. ;)

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It was an amusing scene though...

 

However, I can see why they wouldn't need seatbelts (though when the Excelscior prepared for transwarp jump they all had restraints of some sort) they do after all have inertial dampers. ;)

the dampners however do not work fast enough to stop sudden impacts but in the original series all the ships had seats where the sides folded down over the legs so no one could move much however they went back up to slowly so they were removed

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Even so, you'd only get thrown a few feet at the most under normal circumstances. Besides if an alien ship appears out of no where are you really going to remember to put your seatbelt on? And in situations where you did have a chance to (going into a combat mission) I'd probbably want to be able to move around quickly with out having to fuss with seatbelts.

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all true all true but maybe they should have them in the barracks if you know what I mean

::remembers on ST VI where all the people fell out of their beds when they were attacked::

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some times people get thrown from one side of the bridge to the other but seat belts i know this may sound weird have a better chace of killing someone on a starship

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According to Star Trek: The Magazine, there was a deleted scene in Star Trek: Nemesis with Captain Picard's chair and seatbelts.

 

...he presses a button and seatbelts fly into position, holding him firmly in place.  Surprised, Picard smiles, "About time."

Stuart Baird cut it because apparently he thought "it took away from the emotional impact of Data's death."

Yeah, it did take emphasis off the death quite a bit but I still think it was better to end a franchise on the bridge of the ship.

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Even so, you'd only get thrown a few feet at the most under normal circumstances. Besides if an alien ship appears out of no where are you really going to remember to put your seatbelt on? And in situations where you did have a chance to (going into a combat mission) I'd probbably want to be able to move around quickly with out having to fuss with seatbelts.

I'm not sure I buy it.

 

Getting thrown a few feet is pretty dangerous. Especially if there happens to be a viewscreen there. As for whether you'd remember to do things. Let's see... you're on a 24th century starship. You have to remember all kinds of protocols for your duty station. A seatbelt seems like the simplest of them. And, considering how anal Starfleet is about safety (there's some early DS9 episode where O'Brien says Starfleet requires a secondary backup of all major systems!), it's kind of surprising that they never had seatbelts on starships.

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I'm not sure I buy it.

 

Getting thrown a few feet is pretty dangerous.  Especially if there happens to be a viewscreen there.  As for whether you'd remember to do things.  Let's see... you're on a 24th century starship.  You have to remember all kinds of protocols for your duty station.  A seatbelt seems like the simplest of them.  And, considering how anal Starfleet is about safety (there's some early DS9 episode where O'Brien says Starfleet requires a secondary backup of all major systems!), it's kind of surprising that they never had seatbelts on starships.

When I was five, and saw no seat bealts on the bus, nothing a major goverment insitute did suprised me.

Edited by AndrewLyon

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well I think it would be too much of a hinderance because during battle especially there are duties that need to be done right away theres no time to latch and unlatch a seatbelt

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Eh, a battle scene wouldnt be the same without a few hapless ensigns flying about the screens in a shower of sparks after a major atatck. ;)

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Plus, if you get boarded, you're stuck in your seat and easily dispatched.

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Eh, a battle scene wouldnt be the same without a few hapless ensigns flying about the screens in a shower of sparks after a major atatck. ;)

I agree. :lol:

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lets see hhhmmmmm...seat belt+ explosive decompression+into open space or vaporised by an explosion = whats the point.......dead is dead.....may make it easier

to locate and load the remains if any are found.........hhhhhhhmmmm ;) :lol: :D

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OK, OK, how about a set of restraints like those on a roller coaster? When you sit down, it hovers over you.

 

"Please remain seated until the ship comes to a complete stop. In the case of an emergency, crew members will be throw about the bridge for effect."

 

Hey, wait. What about people roaming about the ship while its trekkin' somewhere? They could never move about, because the ship is always atleast at impulse.

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Hey, wait. What about people roaming about the ship while its trekkin' somewhere? They could never move about, because the ship is always atleast at impulse.

Under normal circumstances, this is not a problem. First, if the ship is going at constant speed, the people on the inside should be able to walk around and not feel a thing (it's an inertial reference frame). Second, if the ship accelerates or decelerates under normal procedures, the "inertial dampers" (whatever the heck they are) exactly oppose the motion that would be felt from the acceleration.

 

The only time this is an issue is when the ship is either jostled around so fast that the ID can't react fast enough, or when the inertial dampers fail.

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OK, OK, how about a set of restraints like those on a roller coaster? When you sit down, it hovers over you.

 

"Please remain seated until the ship comes to a complete stop. In the case of an emergency, crew members will be throw about the bridge for effect."

 

Hey, wait. What about people roaming about the ship while its trekkin' somewhere? They could never move about, because the ship is always atleast at impulse.

well you see it still is a hinderence do you notice how slow they move

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