Could the SF Chnl have offered ENT more?

[Rhade Annahsahzie 0]

Would ENT have faired better on the Sci-Fi channel? Would the Sci-Fi channel have more to offer a Trek series?

[JerryGraham 0]

UPN was not willing to give the show to anyone else.

In two years there is supposed to be a new series, at least thats what the guy from UPN told startrek.com

 

 

-Jerry

[Duroz 0]

I think it definately could have done better on Sci-Fi and if not there then on Spike TV...

 

But like Jerry said...UPN wasn't wanting to give it up...and Paramount didn't want to have to fool with another network.

[JerryGraham 0]

Which really sucks Enterprise was actually gettting some in the StarTrek universe. It's finally getting it's own books now.

 

-Jerry

[Seiben 0]

I suppose Enterprise might have lived to survive on Sci-Fi, but like many of you others, I always thought Paramount and Viacom would never let that happen.

[Kansas_Jones 0]

If SF was inclined to take on ENT, as well as Paramount willing to deal with another network, it may have worked out. Then again, I am neither a network exec nor in the business. ;)

 

Which really sucks Enterprise was actually gettting some in the StarTrek universe. It's finally getting it's own books now.

 

-Jerry

 

A new ENT book centering on the MACOs (Woo Hoo) is due out 2005/2006. The working title is "Squids and Sharks" and Mangels and Martin are the authors.

[JerryGraham 0]

Really a book on The Maco's. Thats great. At first I didn't really like the Maco's and hoped that they would leave the ship when Xindi Weapon was destroyed. But I've come to like them. They do pretty good in a fight. I am definatly reading that book and can't wait for more Star Trek: Enterprise themed Books.

 

-Jerry

[Travis Kroells 0]

It would have gone better on Sci Fi. There it would have at least had a dedicated fan base.

 

But theres no way UPN/Paramount would give it up, so such thoughts are futile.

[JerryGraham 0]

It had a fan base, but when they moved it to Friday they knew they would loose vewers, and thats why they did it. They wanted UPN to be more of a stupid Comedy network with shows that dont last much more than 6 months. Star Trek was keeping UPN alive, thats where a lot of veiwers tuned into.

 

 

-Jerry

[STSF Precip 0]

I think Paramount will never allow another studio to produce a Star Trek Television series, and money spent or made will be theirs.

 

If I suspended my belief in the above, Id run into another obstacle for SCI FI to carry Enterprise. The simple fact it already has a sucessful "Space" show ..that is Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar is not cheap to make, and I highly doubt the people at SCI-FI would be willing to spend what was needed to keep Enterprise going.

 

_Precip

[JerryGraham 0]

Oh I wouldn't say that. It's the oppertunity to bring a whole lot of Trek geeks. The ones who only watch Star Trek. i'm one of 'em. Ope wait I started watching StarGate SG-1 about a week ago.

 

 

-Jerry ;)

[Duroz 0]

A new ENT book centering on the MACOs (Woo Hoo) is due out 2005/2006. The working title is "Squids and Sharks" and Mangels and Martin are the authors.

 

SWEET... I just finished a book by those two... The Lost Era "The Sundered" It's one of the most creative I've read in a long time... So I'll keep my eyes peeled for this new one thanks for the update Kansas...

[FredM 0]

Hey there,

 

Some of you seem to be confusing a few points. UPN and Paramount are not, were not, the same company. This might be becoming a lot clearer if Viacom/CBS does indeed split into two corporations as they are presently discussing.

 

Paramount Pictures Inc. is the studio that produced Star Trek: Enterprise, just as they were the studio responsible for all recent Trek incarnations.

 

The United Paramount Network was a television network that showed Star Trek: Enterprise, no different than any other.

 

The issue is that UPN was not also producing Star Trek: Enterprise. When they, UPN, decided not to renew the show...the studio found itself with a product and no where to show it for another season. Thus, since the network had cancelled the option for the show appearing on their television stations for another season, the producing studio was going to loose any chance of profit (having the episodes purchased by UPN for viewing) and thus terminated production.

 

The problem here is that Paramount Pictures studio, under some recommendations it seems from Berman/Braga, refused to consider other networks to sell it's product to. The reason claimed was that each episode would cost $1.5 million to produce. When you look at produced shows that cable networks show, this is expensive. For example, there were serious questions whether Battlestar Galactica would make it to full series status on the Sci-Fi Channel due to the fact it costs $1 million per episode to create. This means that network has to pay the "studio" producing it that much to cover costs.

 

What gets confusing is the fact many networks (especially cable) have studios where they produce their own material for viewing. There is no clear line between studio/network as there was with Star Trek: Enterprise. In fact, it's an odd thing these days to find a show produced like this. However, just as Star Trek: The Next Generation was producd by Paramount Pictures and sold via syndication to networks, that's the formula they continued to use.

 

The Sci-Fi Channel would have been a nice home for Star Trek: Enterprise, but I doubt they could afford it. From that network's perspective, they already have three highly successful (and expensive) weekly television series going on with Friday nights. It was, in part, due to the claim a network like Sci-Fi couldn't afford it is where the Trekunited campaign moved in with fans trying to "make it affordable" for another network to find it profitable. Supposedly, had it been offerred, SpikeTV was showing some supposed interest I'd read somewhere. Yet, again, Paramount Pictures the studio refused to show for another venue to show it.

 

Reason why? Braga/Berman and the present administration believe the franchise needs a break. Do I think Braga/Berman had their own personal reasons for wanting the show to end? I do and I think recent activity, with Braga having a new show on CBS for example, speak to that.

[Darrik 0]

Which really sucks Enterprise was actually gettting some in the StarTrek universe. It's finally getting it's own books now.

 

-Jerry

The reason there are more books coming out now is because the show has finished.

[WesleyMustDie 0]

I had to vote no because there are a LOT of people (like me) who don't get Sci-Fi or Spike. UPN was my only option and if Enterprise had been moved, I wouldn't have been able to watch it.

[Tachyon 0]

I had to vote no because there are a LOT of people (like me) who don't get Sci-Fi or Spike. UPN was my only option and if Enterprise had been moved, I wouldn't have been able to watch it.

But it would have eventually come out on DVD, or another channel would have picked it up as they syndicated it, et cetera. ^_^ As it is now, no new episodes are produced anywhere.

[WesleyMustDie 0]

Good point, Tachyon, but I can't afford the Enterprise sets...they're too darned expensive.

[Darrik 0]

Good point, Tachyon, but I can't afford the Enterprise sets...they're too darned expensive.

I suggest looking for a video store. Some of the local types have the DVDs available for rent at decent prices. And, there's always the library. Or, you could go to P2P sites and get copies of the DVDs/episodes.

[WesleyMustDie 0]

I'll just wait till they're on sale...

[Montague 0]

I suggest looking for a video store. Some of the local types have the DVDs available for rent at decent prices. And, there's always the library. Or, you could go to P2P sites and get copies of the DVDs/episodes.

Shame on you. ^_^

 

P2P....

 

How are they going to make money then?

 

But seriously, how is SciFi going to get a new series when they produce GARBAGE regularly, all of those horrible cliche, low rated movies have to cost something and it seems that they dont want to stop producing this trash.

Edited July 3, 2005 by Montague

[Cptn Corizon 0]

Actually. UPN and Paramount are *technically* the same company, at the present time. They are owned by Viacom, meaning if Viacom tells UPN to do something, then they have to do it. For example, if Viacom told CBS they were going to be airing ENT, then they would have to do it.

 

UPN, Viacom-et al, made a decesion. Enterprise was not pulling it's weight anymore. They could produce programing cheaper that could fill it's place. Paramount, then, with out somewhere with in the Viacom family to send it, pulled the plug.

 

Sci-Fi could have done a better job with it, because guess what? They actually care about the content of their sci-fi shows, however the point is moot, because at no point would Viacom have been willing to allow the Trek franchise out of their hands.

 

Translation, Enterprise was cancled for a reason. It wasn't a profitable show, and they weren't going to turn over the rights to it either. Moral of the story: the show died for a reason.