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Tydahl

new star trek film?

Does any one have any info on the next star trek film ? was hopeing for the voyager crew to return? maybe picard back ? ^_^

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I've heard rumours of a new film. There are suppose to be several scripts in developement. But, haven't heard anything of a plot. I'd like to see a next gen, next gen. Maybe with Riker as Captain, with some of the Voyager crew. Or, an Enterprise movie about the founding of the Federation and the Romulan Wars.

 

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Star Trek XI's plot line: Gordi goes out into space with a vacum cleaner to clean up the Data dust floating around, cause like...the Romulans are like totaly freaking out about it...like.

 

(I dont know why, but I devolved into a 14 year old highschool cheerleader in that post...)

 

But seriously, I thought that God was going to punish us with a Rapture, not another Trek film.

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I'm not sure what it's going to be exactly, but according to this article, the TNG group wanted to do another film but the studio said no.

 

http://www.trektoday.com/news/030605_01.shtml

 

At this point, I really don't care who is in the next movie...I just wish trek would continue.

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I always heard the New Trek film had something to do with the Romulan Wars of 2156-60. That's what I read once..

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Hey there,

 

I am rather certain Star Trek will continue. I've heard different rumors, half all coming out of Rick Berman's mouth and going against other things he's already said...so I don't consider him the most reliable intelligence.

 

I think it will easily be two or three years before we see another major motion picture about Star Trek. What will it deal with? I honestly don't know. Personally, I have a feeling it might be a new timeframe with a new crew...and if the movie is successful it could easily be the launch for a new television series. Kind of history in reverse as far as the franchise is concerned.

 

One of the big problems, from my view, is a remark several production folks (who had been working on Star Trek for 18+ years at the Paramount lot) said towards the end of Star Trek: Enterprise. With all of the recent changes at Paramount, no one in a mangement position really cares about the franchise anymore. It is no more special or important than that new film they just completed production on. While it's not unreasonable to understand this perception, it is also concerning. Treating Star Trek just like any other franchise is what led to it's cancellation back in the 1960s. I'm seriously beginning to think that's what's lead to it's cancellation in the 2000s.

 

I guess a bigger question deals with who will be the guiding light for the franchise. Rick Berman's contract is due to expire within the next 18 months. Manny Coto, who I have no problem with taking over the task, has moved on to be a producer on 24. I suppose he might come back, but regardless. Who are you going to find, that honestly has a good understanding of the Trek universe, fanbase and expectations everyone has?

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I think it will easily be two or three years before we see another major motion picture about Star Trek. What will it deal with? I honestly don't know. Personally, I have a feeling it might be a new timeframe with a new crew...and if the movie is successful it could easily be the launch for a new television series. Kind of history in reverse as far as the franchise is concerned.

That's a really interesting idea Fred ... I never thought of that. At first when I read your post the thought of not having another Trek movie for a couple of years really disappointed me. But now that I think about, I don't want a new one for awhile. Nemesis really upset me. It's the only movie that's ever made me cry! I'd rather have Trek put on hold for a little while and wait for them to come out with something that's really worthy of the name. I don't know if I could wait ten years though, Vatric. In the meantime, at least we have STSF!

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Clearly Bakula's acting was beating Enterprise like a dead horse.

yeah it always bothered me how he walked didn;t really use his knees much especially when presenting a speech or speaking infornt of crowds

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Finally, another person that only staired at his knees the entire episode. I thought I was the only one here...

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Manny Coto, who I have no problem with taking over the task, has moved on to be a producer on 24

 

24 has been signed on for at least 2 more years on FOX, so if Coto is going to take over Star Trek, it won't be for a while. 24 is doing so good it might go on for more than 2 more years ^_^

 

I don't mind having no new Star Trek for a while, 24 and the *good* reality shows can hold me up till Star Trek returns.

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Hey there,

 

Well, you know what...in all honesty...could you imagine what even Star Trek: The Next Generation would look like if it came to use in a television style similiar to either 24 or Battlestar Galactica? More...realistic appearance as if you were actually there...

 

If folks are smart at Paramount (I know, I know), I think the next series will feature a non-traditional format.

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Hey there,

 

Well, you know what...in all honesty...could you imagine what even Star Trek: The Next Generation would look like if it came to use in a television style similiar to either 24 or Battlestar Galactica? More...realistic appearance as if you were actually there...

 

If folks are smart at Paramount (I know, I know), I think the next series will feature a non-traditional format.

 

Hmmmm...I COULD see another Trek series or movie with that more "realistic" look regarding cameras and lighting. And, yes, I do feel that it will still *be* Star Trek.

 

With the other *real looking* shows as competition, I would think trek may need to go with the flow and keep up. Then again, when you think about it, Star Trek has been doing this for years already. TOS was very bright and colorful due to the 60's. When TNG premiered, that was *bright* due to the 80's, and then as the seasons went on, and DS9 and VOY came on the air (1990's), the *looks* shifted to slightly less bright as other television shows have done, yet not completely dark either. ENT was, in my opinion, a *dark* series (not as dark as BSG) due to camera and lighting work.

 

Star Trek has been changing it's look already through the years, but as for that ultimate dark look of 24 or BSG, we will see if it happens with Trek or not y'all. ^_^

 

 

>^..^<

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Well, with the cancelation of enterprise, i found my way here. so thats a good thing in a way. Not just for me but like others who'll possibly find other ways to get a startrek fix, be it things like these online forums & games or increased interest in other st media (books, merchandise etc).

 

I don't wish a too long of absence in the ST franchise though.

 

We need new people and possibly Coto of J&G Reeves-Stevens who can write well for story arcs, gripping development, and character depth.

 

For a new film, I dunno what it should feature - which of the serries casts I dunno... If its like Nemesis or to an extend the movie right before it, i'd rather not have any movie at all... IMHO, I only liked First Contact for the TNG line of movies.

 

As for Startrek needing a new format, I think it already achieved a good one in Enterprise season 4 - the continual episodes, mini-arcs (all linked, not self contained independant ones). Babylon 5 used this format - basically a telling of one big story over the spanse of several seasons from start to finish. BSG is also using this very format and look how popular its become. The biggest benifits are few writers, strong continuity, major character development.

 

I know some of you probably wont like me for saying this but, some of the best things about TNG and the other serries were also the worst things about it: too many writers writing and submitting their story/episode scripts, making for episodes completely self-contained. In 2 seasons it took Trip & T'pol to become romantically involed, it took riker/troi/worf 7 years to ahieve.

 

Overall, imho, the biggest changes needed for both next serries and movie, is B&B gone, Coto and/or J&G on the story & production team, and a producer who's good and experianced in the sci-fi genre, and knows what it takes to make a good show. This however does not mean you take someone like Bob Engels who did Twin Peaks and toss them into a sci-fi element and expect a stellar show (for those who dont know, B.E did Twin Peaks, and was brought on to replace Andromeda's season 1&2 producer Robert Hewlt-Wolfe, who then did a lousy job imho.)

 

I wouldn't be worried about needing someone who knows startrek inside & out, theres people like Michael & Denise Okuda who's been with the franchise for a long time.

 

All in all, i've got mixed feelings regarding the whole next movie or show thing. Yes I want more ST to watch, No I don't want to wait 5-10 years for it, Yes I want it to be a smash hit and quality engaging thinking show. We also need something of a story that's going to be new or un-explored or refreshing, and we need it from a good writing team - not a half dozen people each writing their own script and one gets chosen by the franchise execs.

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Agreed TJ ^_^

 

I've been saying this for quite a bit, why not have a series devoted to the exploration of the Gamma Quadrant after DS9?

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Personally, I think we should let the series rest for a bit. And I include movies in that rest period. ^_^

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i think maybe a year or two off may be a good thing but not too long. i dont think that trek will be able to make the comback that it did with TNG after such a long time away without movies.

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I think a good rest period is good...god, that line sucked.

 

The last TOS movies ended in like the late 70's right? Just after that, Star Wars comes out, and occupies peoples interest for the 80's, and well, for some like me, the rest of their lives ^_^

 

I think the idea, is that people were would tune into Sci Fi back then. TNG started at just the right time. Fans of the old series would tune in. Sci Fi geeks would tune in. And anyone else that thought it was cool would tune in.

 

Now we live in a world dominated by reality TV, and people starting themselves on fire for fun. Not that I dont like either, Jackass just rocks :P

 

But the idea, is that Sci Fi just doesn't do that well in main stream. I still thing Star Trek would do a lot better on the Sci Fi channel, but theres no way Paramount would let that happen...

 

Take Stargate SG-1 for example. For it's first 4 or 5 seasons on showtime, the show struggled to stay afloat. Then they jump to Sci Fi, and now it's the channels flagship show. Coupled with Atlantis, and Battle Star Galatica, its every Sci Fi fans excuse to stay home Friday night and not get any.

 

I think Star Trek needs to rest for a bit. People got to bombarded with it, because ever since TNG came out, there hasn't not be Star Trek. Between all the movies, DS9, Voyager, and now Enterprise, people dont know a world with out Star Trek. And the people that were really fighting to save ENT were the old timers that did.

 

So, let it rest a couple years. Let people miss going boldly where no one has gone before.

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I think a good rest period is good...god, that line sucked.

 

The last TOS movies ended in like the late 70's right? Just after that, Star Wars comes out, and occupies peoples interest for the 80's, and well, for some like me, the rest of their lives ^_^

 

I think the idea, is that people were would tune into Sci Fi back then. TNG started at just the right time. Fans of the old series would tune in. Sci Fi geeks would tune in. And anyone else that thought it was cool would tune in.

 

Now we live in a world dominated by reality TV, and people starting themselves on fire for fun. Not that I dont like either, Jackass just rocks :P

 

But the idea, is that Sci Fi just doesn't do that well in main stream. I still thing Star Trek would do a lot better on the Sci Fi channel, but theres no way Paramount would let that happen...

 

Take Stargate SG-1 for example. For it's first 4 or 5 seasons on showtime, the show struggled to stay afloat. Then they jump to Sci Fi, and now it's the channels flagship show. Coupled with Atlantis, and Battle Star Galatica, its every Sci Fi fans excuse to stay home Friday night and not get any.

 

I think Star Trek needs to rest for a bit. People got to bombarded with it, because ever since TNG came out, there hasn't not be Star Trek. Between all the movies, DS9, Voyager, and now Enterprise, people dont know a world with out Star Trek. And the people that were really fighting to save ENT were the old timers that did.

 

So, let it rest a couple years. Let people miss going boldly where no one has gone before.

no the first TOS movie was in the late 70s (77?) and contiued thru 1989 i think

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The first one was in 1979 and the last one was in the early 90's I think.

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Hmmmm...I COULD see another Trek series or movie with that more "realistic" look regarding cameras and lighting. And, yes, I do feel that it will still *be* Star Trek.

 

With the other *real looking* shows as competition, I would think trek may need to go with the flow and keep up. Then again, when you think about it, Star Trek has been doing this for years already. TOS was very bright and colorful due to the 60's. When TNG premiered, that was *bright* due to the 80's, and then as the seasons went on, and DS9 and VOY came on the air (1990's), the *looks* shifted to slightly less bright as other television shows have done, yet not completely dark either. ENT was, in my opinion, a *dark* series (not as dark as BSG) due to camera and lighting work.

 

Star Trek has been changing it's look already through the years, but as for that ultimate dark look of 24 or BSG, we will see if it happens with Trek or not y'all.  ^_^

The "dark" look of Enterprise is one of the reasons why I didn't particularly like the show. I'm also not a big fan of 24 either. I think that's an example of, for me, Trek trying too hard to keep up with other television shows that have nothing to do with sci-fi, and it's caused them to slack off where it counts, in the writing and plot development.

 

But I don't want to debate over what Trek is good or bad...I want to respect all things Trek :P

 

However, personally, I would prefer any new Trek to return to the "brighter" look, at least that of the DS9 and Voyager type.

 

(Added in to avoid confusion)

I realize that they were considered the darkest of the Star Trek series at the time they were created, so I'm not saying they were bright. I'm just saying that I don't particularly like the realistic "dark" look that a lot of television shows have today.

(End addition)

 

I had no problem with the way any of the other series were done in terms of camera and lighting work.

 

But once again, that's just a personal preference.

 

Also, after reading Travis Kroells previous post, I have to agree with him. Star Trek should take a rest for a few years (just 2 or 3, not 5 or 10, in my opinion) and take the time to gather some fresh ideas.

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::Blinks::

 

OMG!!! Someone Agrees with me!!!

 

How many years did that take!?!?!?!

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The first one was in 1979 and the last one was in the early 90's I think.

Yeah, ST VI debuted in 1991.. I belive shortly after Gene Roodeberry's death.

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I agree w/a rest period for Trek aswell, perhaps a few years. But, suggest something to tease the Trek audience for an upcoming series or film.Tease?...you say. Yeah, with a mini-series during each year of respit. An isolated storyline that appeals to the existing fan, but doesnt assume to the point of turning away a new audience.

 

EX:

 

Format: Mini Series

 

Length: 1 Week, 5 Episodes(2 Hrs per episode)

 

Title: Star Trek - Maquis : A War Between Lines

 

Idea: A series that explores the Maquis, beginning w/an in depth explanation of the Maquis, their cause, role and relationship in the Star Trek universe(an explanation that pleases the existing Trek fan, but informs new viewers without assuming that they are all ready informed of the ST universe). The series would follow a group, or cell of Maquis and their conflict against opposition and enemies. A mini series that shows us the ST universe through the eyes of a different faction completely(from any movie or series before hand).

 

This isnt the solution perhaps, but its the right kind of step...in the right kind of direction. Stepping away from prior series ideas to show both old and new ST fans that Star Trek is much larger than the predictable idea of space explorers that has come before. And stepping away from predictable is the only thing that will draw new fans to the ST universe we already have the pleasure of enjoying.

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I think Star Trek would be well served to do some sort of mini-series that focuses on the back stories of some of our characters. Some Examples:

 

Data's first years as an android with Dr. Soong

 

Picard and Crusher's years on the Stargazer with Jack

 

Most Interesting: Chakotay, Torres, and Tuvok's time with the Maquis. It'd be a perfect series.

 

Star Trek: Maquis

 

If Star Trek ever does find a new home, I think the worst problem would be finding a good producer like Manny Coto to take the reigns. I think the Okudas and the Westmores and the rest of the show's crew like Rush and Zimmerman would all love to come back to the job they've been doing for 20 years. Finding the right man to run the show would probably be the biggest problem.

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