Bush/Starfleet Parody Cartoon

[Vex Xiang 0]

Wow you can post pictures on these boards!

 

With Bush's statement the night before last and the prospect of war looming...I thought a funny cartoon might lighten the mood.

 

Here you go!

 

(source from Xiang Monthly...http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/LtCdrVex/index.html)

[Vex Xiang 0]

Here's another funny one!

 

Source: Xiang Monthly (http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/LtCdrVex/index.html)

[Erein Vor'Tic 0]

lol, that is all I can say

[FredM 0]

Hey there,

 

Pretty good...though the first cartoon shouldn't read "If Bush Was President Of The Federation" it should read "If The UN Was In Charge Of The Federation."   :)

[Vex Xiang 0]

Pretty good...though the first cartoon shouldn't read "If Bush Was President Of The Federation" it should read "If The UN Was In Charge Of The Federation."    

 

LOL...a good point! :)

[STSF Jorlis 0]

Oh dear, not another newsletter.

 

Say, this one's actually good!  :)   Way to go, fish!

[MajorZStarDust 0]

Fred pegged it.. Bush inherited this, don't blame him for delay. Clinton didn't finish it (can't PO the UN) the UN let Saddam keep violating, and all Bush has done is try to keep the UN happy yet finish this mess.

 

I like the second cartoon!!!

[Vex Xiang 0]

Shhhhh...don't talk about any newsletters! You're going to get me into trouble!

[LoAmi 0]

Fred pegged it.. Bush inherited this, don't blame him for delay. Clinton didn't finish it (can't PO the UN) the UN let Saddam keep violating, and all Bush has done is try to keep the UN happy yet finish this mess.

 

I like the second cartoon!!!

That's a bit unfair to Clinton - he had very little in the way of reasons for war and America was already fighting in the former Yugoslavia under NATO.  Bush Sr. is the one who should have finished off Saddam in '91: he had the opportunity and the motive.

[LtCdrGromVik 0]

Fred pegged it.. Bush inherited this, don't blame him for delay. Clinton didn't finish it (can't PO the UN) the UN let Saddam keep violating, and all Bush has done is try to keep the UN happy yet finish this mess.

 

I like the second cartoon!!!

That's a bit unfair to Clinton - he had very little in the way of reasons for war and America was already fighting in the former Yugoslavia under NATO.  Bush Sr. is the one who should have finished off Saddam in '91: he had the opportunity and the motive.

I think the problem lies in the "United" Nations.  These resolutions are passed by people who can't even decide what they're going to order for lunch, let alone "world policy."

[Vex Xiang 0]

Uh...how do you know they don't know what to get for lunch?

 

Geez...the news must not have a whole lot to report on.

 

"Today's Top Story....the UN Diplomats discuss McDonalds or Subway...will the UN be made to smile or will they lose 100 pounds?"

[Cmdr Laura Issia 0]

Well, to be fair, the UN is so completely crippled by limiting rules and regulations put into place when it was founded (since that was the only way to get it up and running and not have it crash like the League of Nations), that even if they were as in-synch as the Borg collective, they really couldn't do a whole heck of a lot.

[LoAmi 0]

that even if they were as in-synch as the Borg collective, they really couldn't do a whole heck of a lot.

I'm not sure that this is such a bad thing.  The UN (with the exception of the Security Council, where the five main victors of WWII have vetoes) is essentially a democratic body that includes a lot of undemocratic countries.  And, part of their obligations are... to promote worldwide democracy!?!?  Could you imagine what would happen if Libya really had some power to enforce its idea of human rights?

[Guest STSF Dacotah]

where the five main victors of WWII have vetoes

France was a victor?  Only in the UN could a country surrender to one nation, be liberated by another and be called a victor.

 

Dac

[VileRomulan 0]

where the five main victors of WWII have vetoes

France was a victor?  Only in the UN could a country surrender to one nation, be liberated by another and be called a victor.

 

Dac

lol, good point, france and brittain were pretty crippled, did france even have a military back then? atleast brittain took place in D-Day

[LtCdrGromVik 0]

that even if they were as in-synch as the Borg collective, they really couldn't do a whole heck of a lot.

I'm not sure that this is such a bad thing.  The UN (with the exception of the Security Council, where the five main victors of WWII have vetoes) is essentially a democratic body that includes a lot of undemocratic countries.  And, part of their obligations are... to promote worldwide democracy!?!?  Could you imagine what would happen if Libya really had some power to enforce its idea of human rights?

Couldn't have said it better myself. Good response Loami...

 

-Grom

 

 

 

"The problem with legislators is that they insist on legislating!"

[Images 0]

hey hey hey people! we need the UN, yes i do find that simpsons line "Do you want to be like the real UN or do you just wanna sit around and bicker?" very funny. but the thing is that the without the UN this planet would be more doomed then it already is! think of all the aid programmes, all the peacekeeping operations and all the human rights laws that they have set up. The reason that they don't go charging into war is because the first rule of the UN's policy is to preserve peace and only when the world is in full agreement will they take action. If you allow nations to run around willy nilly, attacking on a whim, then the UN has no reason to exist. They are not the fastest or the best organisation out there but i ask you, how could you make it better without corrupting it?

[Dumbass 0]

Bush Sr. is the one who should have finished off Saddam in '91: he had the opportunity and the motive.

But not the technology, and the troops really didn't have the experienced training.  I was in the US Army from 1988-1991 and had to train under drill sergeants who didn't have any more combat experience than I did.  Todays new recruits are trained under drill sergeants who were Privates and Corporals in Desert Storm.  (Don't get me wrong, our troops in Desert Storm were the best in the world, but they are even better now.)

 

The technology has gotten much better too, thanks in no small part to the technology revolution of the 90s.  GPS-guided bombs have replaced laser-guided, and do not require troops on the ground to launch.  Look at the destruction raining down on Baghdad now.  We can deal lethal blows to military structures and still leave the city with electricity and water.

 

And don't forget that with a broad coalition, such as in 1990-1, come broad restrictions on how and where we can attack.  The Saudis didn't want us to decimate Iraq because they were concerned about Iran. Turkey didn't (and doesn't) want Iraq disbanded because they are concerned about the Kurds in northern Iraq teaming up with the Kurds in southern Turkey.

 

We also know more about Hussein's strategy now than when the "first" war started.  Add it all up and we have the capability to do MUCH more now than we could in 1991.

[Dumbass 0]

They are not the fastest or the best organisation out there but i ask you, how could you make it better without corrupting it?

I'm reminded of the line Queen Amidala had in The Phantom Menace.  "It is clear to me now that the Republic no longer functions."  That's pretty much how I see the UN.  The way it's governance structure is set up whenever a decision is required everyone's interests have to be accomodated.  What you get are (in most cases) watered-down resolutions that have no teeth and would not be a good idea if actually implemented.

 

What I would suggest is to not give every country a vote just because they exist.  Treat it like any other organization and set some minimum standards for membership.  One standard I would suggest is to limit membership to only those countries that have a democratically-elected government.  Right now the majority of the UN membership is not democratic so I don't see how they can participate in the UN which IS democratic (at least in theory).

[STSF Jorlis 0]

Problem Solved

[Dumbass 0]

Problem Solved

LOL - The Onion.com always has good material.  

 

My favorite was a couple weeks ago when they had the headline "Kuwait Deploys Troop" with a pic of what was presumably Kuwait's only soldier standing in a field.

[Yvon Hawke 0]

::laughing so hard, hits the floor, cracks head open and brains spill out. Maintains uber-laughing::