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[STSF Precip 0]

 

The whole point of this episode was focusing on loyalty and the relationship between crew members, that was the point of having Riker's indecision in the episode.  I think that Riker's storyline was excellent at showing us the effect the NX-01 crew had.  People now-a-days read about historical figures such as Ghandi, or watch movies like Braveheart and use the moral questions and action that is raised in those to make better decisions in their lives, this episode showed that not only do people in the future do the same thing, but that their great heroes are the crew of the NX-01.

 

 

 

 

 

First of all....great post.

 

In my opinion you are dead on about what this episode revolved around, loyalty..in respect to two different officers generations apart. I liked how it showed future Federation crewmen actually knowing about NX-01 and her crew. I agree with other posters that this would of been a good season finale...or better a November sweeps scale of episode.

 

As one of those whose watched TNG as it was first being shown; the cut scenes to the Enterprise D didn't bother me a bit. I actually enjoyed them. Seeing the Enterprise D in today's CGI enviornment was royal. Sure the sets at that time weren't decked out like Voyager's...let alone Enterprises..but it was cool to see those Flat LCARS panels, the Holodecks and the even the heavily used ready-room again. (Of course the same statement would probably be made for TOS era fans).

 

In retrospect this episode appeared to be two arcs spliced together...the link being how crewman deal with the issue of loyalty. I would of liked to have seen a stronger sublot than Shran's daughter being abducted...some crisis of greater nature. However, since I feel this script was for a meant for a sweeps period (Nov or Feb) It did the best it could...given it wasnt meant to be I feel...A series finale script.

 

-Precip

[Ron_Lunn 0]

I didn't really care for what happened to Trip. It seemed pointless. If they wanted to prove he was loyal to Archer, they could have found a better way to do it. Maybe they wanted to make a connection between Trip and Spock and Data...all willing to sacrifice themselves for their Captains and crews. If that's what it was, they should have come up with a better storyline.

I don't think Trip's death was pointless at all, or that they were trying to make that connection. The pivotal point to understanding why Trip sacrificed himself is the conversation with Riker in the kitchen. He talks about being able to count on one hand how many people he trusts, and that whole speech about trusting them not ass in they won't steal your money, but trusting beyond everything. It's a concept that you can't put words too, I mean if you sit down and think about it, do you have a friend who you'd do that for, I have friends I care about but I think I'd hesitate to do something like that. It shows what an amazing person Trip was, and more on my original points it shows why Troi recommended Riker take part in that holodeck program, he could learn more from Trip than Troi than ever make him understand.

 

It's at that moment in the kitchen, I think, that Riker realises that he feels the same way about Picard, it just took someone asking him that for him to understand. And then seeing the extreme that Trip went to he realised that his decision was rather trivial, and his loyalty to Picard was a lot more important.

Edited May 16, 2005 by Ron_Lunn