Enterprise season 4

[JerryGraham 0]

My personal favorite will be the civil war.

Jerry Graham

[Ens_Watson 0]

Don't care. I just need Enterprise. For all I care, they can make a two hour documentary on the Xindi war (clip show) hosted by Picard. Hmm, actually... ::sells idea to Paramont::

 

isn't it also a little early to say which episodes will be your fav. For all we know, The B-Boys will just screw up a completely good idea.

 

Also, you should add the end of the temproal cold war thingy.

 

(and look foward to an episode of "Pierre Bernard's Recliner of Rage" getting himself another uniform, and Wayne Brady gettin' a pip)

Edited September 13, 2004 by Ens_Watson

[Seiben 0]

Probably the Season pilot. I'd like to know who that wierd alien dude is in the Nazi uniform. :D

[Ens_Watson 0]

Probably the Season pilot. I'd like to know who that wierd alien dude is in the Nazi uniform. :)

if you want to know, why not read the spoilers. lot quicker, easier, and you don't have to wait a month for it. :D

[Bill Gamble 0]

Just for the record, a pilot is what producers create to show to the network heads there idea for a show, and then they hope that one of the networks will pick it up. Sometimes the networks play the pilot as part of a show's first season, and sometimes they don't, it just varies.

 

The first episode of any show's season is commonly referred to as the 'Season Premiere'.

 

Now, since I'm not one to listen to rumors, I will obstain from the vote.

 

The only thing I know, that will probably be true, from the BB twins is that we see the end of the Temporal Cold War, and Brent Spiners appeareance this season. And also Scott Bakula attempt to get Wayne Brady on the show as well. So beyond all that, it's all rumors unless I hear it from the horses mouth.

 

So, yes, as you see, I stick by my decision. :D

[STSF Precip 0]

I am looking forward to Enterprise visiting Vulcan. I am curious what Vulcan society is like in that time period. I have my own opinion, but BB Inc no doubt have quite a scenario set.

 

Also I certainly hope Enterprise gets a refit. She's in terrible condition. Perhaps we'll see a tractor beam installed.

 

-Precip

[Travis Kroells 0]

Yes, ROFL we have photon torpedos years before we were suposed to (I think) but we need a blasted grapling hook to grab anything in outside space!

 

::Chuckles::

[DaryusWilliams 0]

I'm waiting for the Vulcan civil war. Nothing like a bunch of ticked off Vulcan's letting out ther pent up agression's. :P

 

Zaphod,

[Travis Kroells 0]

ROFL. If you think about it. Two three parters, and an unspecified amount of time spent on Alien Nazis...That's over a a quarter of the season, maybe even a third.

 

Unless something serriously kickbutt happens, BB should be assassinated for wasting the last season Enterprise had to get it right.

[Darrik 0]

Just for the record, a pilot is what producers create to show to the network heads there idea for a show, and then they hope that one of the networks will pick it up.

Wait, I thought a pilot is what Maywhether is on the show :P

Edited September 13, 2004 by Darrik

[Travis Kroells 0]

Helmsman fool.

 

We've become civilizied in the future. We realize the word Pilot means drunk whilst flying.

 

:P

[JerryGraham 0]

According to the spoilers on www.startrek.com the Andorians take advantage of the civil war between the Vulcans. And Enterprise has to play referee.

 

Ensign Jerry Graham

Assistant Engineer

CHALLENGER NX-05

T__pol_and_Shran

[Dumbass 0]

I'm not a Vulcan, but I do play one on STSF.

 

I shudder to think of everything that can go wrong continuity-wise with a Vulcan civil war that hasn't even been mentioned in anything Trek-related until now. There is no telling what canon will end up being rewritten. Not to mention the philosophical impact of a supposedly pacifist race taking up arms against each other.

 

Yet I have to admit I am curious.

[NDak 0]

Where's my option:

 

"The last episode of this wretched series" :P

[NDak 0]

I'm waiting for the Vulcan civil war. Nothing like a bunch of ticked off Vulcan's letting out ther pent up agression's.  :P

 

Zaphod,

A Vulcan Civil War....oy....

 

However...

 

This could turn out to be a lot of background information about the Romulans, considering "we" left during a "civil war" about 2000 years before Enterprise or soo. I imagine that the new "civil war" would involve a lot of the same issues that came up 2000 years ago when s'Task and company went on the Sundering. But as my "cousin" Van Roy pointed out, the impilcations to Canon could be far-reaching, now the Vulcans get to feel how the Romulans felt post-Nemises. Hey, look at it this way Van Roy...when the season comes out on DVD it might make a good coaster for you ^_^

 

 

Andorians...take advantage of Vulcans...never...I swear the BB Twins steal their plot ideas of us...

 

Maybe I will watch after all....

[koolaidman 0]

I'm not a Vulcan, but I do play one on STSF.

 

I shudder to think of everything that can go wrong continuity-wise with a Vulcan civil war that hasn't even been mentioned in anything Trek-related until now. There is no telling what canon will end up being rewritten. Not to mention the philosophical impact of a supposedly pacifist race taking up arms against each other.

 

Yet I have to admit I am curious.

yes am im not an actor but i play one on tv

[Grom 0]

I'm not a Vulcan, but I do play one on STSF.

 

I shudder to think of everything that can go wrong continuity-wise with a Vulcan civil war that hasn't even been mentioned in anything Trek-related until now. There is no telling what canon will end up being rewritten. Not to mention the philosophical impact of a supposedly pacifist race taking up arms against each other.

 

Yet I have to admit I am curious.

I too am interested...

 

It could explain a lot about GromVik...or ruin my character completely. :P

[Vex Xiang 0]

I'm just interested in seeing the Romulan War. That's the extent of my interest in the show at this point. The whole Xindi plot was too soap-operatic for me.

 

I'd also like to see how they realistically give the Starfleet any chance of surviving a war with anything, be it the Romulan Empire or a pack of space-dwelling slugs...because just about everything in the galaxy seems to be able to kick the Enterprise's butt...and since its the most powerful ship in the fleet, and they only have 1 of them (and it takes, what, 4 years to build them?) I wouldn't be surprised if Earth was a barren chunk of rock by the end of the show.

 

My opinion is that they need to bring in the Daedalus class...perhaps a spaceframe built by another race with far more rapid production lines. Something more powerful than the NX...but hey, bring in a fleet of those as well. ENT seems more like Voyager...they're close to home, but they might as well be a lost ship in the middle of nowhere :P , because aside from Vulcan ships grumpily helping them once and a while, and the occassional good friend, and the fact that everyone they meet always turns out to want to destroy them (or all of Earth), its going to get a little unbelievable that this ship has managed to survive.

 

2-cents.

 

I shudder to think of everything that can go wrong continuity-wise with a Vulcan civil war that hasn't even been mentioned in anything Trek-related until now. There is no telling what canon will end up being rewritten. Not to mention the philosophical impact of a supposedly pacifist race taking up arms against each other.

 

I just don't see the problem with ENT bring in a Vulcan civil war. It sure would explain why those puny humans manage to become leaders of the Federation, if Vulcan was temporarily destabilized. Remember if it hasn't been mentioned by Trek, it's up for grabs! Unless they specifically said in some show or movie, "Vulcans have never had a civil war", there is no canon being rewritten...only fan-based assumptions. Like with the Romulans...we know nothing of them, and Nemesis wrote a lot of background info on the Rommies...fans may not like it, but there it is.

Edited September 17, 2004 by Vex Xiang

[Dumbass 0]

It could explain a lot about GromVik...or ruin my character completely. :P

I would say it would likely be the former. The latter has already been accomplished. ^_^

[Dumbass 0]

But as my "cousin" Van Roy pointed out,

The "ass" family (Dumb, my brother Smart, cousin Pain-in-the, and Uncle Jack) has always considered NDak to be a family secret, kinda like the crazy aunt who lives in the attic we take turns bringing food up to. It's less embarrassing if we don't talk about him and try to keep him quiet whenever company comes over. :P

[Dumbass 0]

Here is a spoiler about the Vulcan Civil War if you are interested, courtesy of startrek.com:

 

Click here

 

Other non-plot tidbits:

 

The 3rd episode of the "Brent Spiner" trilogy is being directed by LeVar Burton (Geordi LaForge).

 

Linda Park (Hoshi Sato) is also dating Tom Hardy (Shinzon).

[Vex Xiang 0]

Thanks for the link...I love the ending...

 

However, he believes the move to Friday for Enterprise, coupled with America's Next Top Model, is "a much better strategy. I think we'll do a much better number there with that show, and perhaps it can live for a number of years. We hope so."

 

"America's Next Top Model" is expected to save Enterprise for a few more years. Oh...what has TV turned into...

[Darrik 0]

hmm, the Reinassance refrences look interesting. heh, wonder who will play Machiavelliock :P

[Darrik 0]

hmm, the Reinassance refrences look interesting. heh, wonder who will play Machiavelliock :P

actually, to partly answer my own question, he'd (maybe she, just for fun) probobly be a Romulan. Althought he could be considered a humanist (people like Surak), the fact that he does not belive in fruitful ideals that do not exist, and tells it as it is, makes him more like a Romulan (they broke off from Surak's teachings when he said they should not fight to defend themselves)

[Dumbass 0]

(they broke off from Surak's teachings when he said they should not fight to defend themselves)

This is pretty much how I play my Vulcan character. Starting with the assumption that it is illogical to limit one's options my character rejects *any* "extremist" position as illogical since they tend to do exactly that. My character thus rejects pacifism because once you adopt the philosophy that killing or causing destruction is always wrong, even in self-defense, your only other options are to run or hide.

 

This is not saying my character thinks the avoidance of war isn't desirable. It is. However, he understands that desires are just that and must ultimately give way to reality. The reality is sometimes you have to fight, and fight with the intention to kill. Show compassion to the enemy, especially when that enemy has clearly been beaten, but don't let that compassion guide your strategy. If all other efforts have failed, and you must fight, then you have already committed yourself to a Win/Lose outcome so you must fight to win.

Edited September 18, 2004 by Dumbass