Contiunation Of Academy Sims

[Adm_Bell-Krasner 0]

I have attended about 60 something sims since I joined the STSF group and I have noticed that the GMS have a habit of either 1. Destoying the ships or 2. Killing everyone off at the end of the sim. Now this may be a way to end it but I think it would be even more fun for everyone if we continued the sim on the next week Not everyone who was there the previous week has to attend because there are always new people and for those like myself who do them almost every night we could keep our positions. It would work and it would be interesting at least for another week to see what happens. For example if STSF Jami and Jorlis ran a sim with the Janus on Tuesday they could continue that same scenario the next week. This I think would increase attendance as well because I see often enough that people like to just jump in. After all that is what we do when we join an advanced sim. I will speak to the GM's about this and maybe you all could give me some ideas.

[Nemesis 0]

Actually Kbear does that a lot. In fact I think tonight is the sim where she tends to do that too ^_^

[Tachyon 0]

I personally enjoy not having much continuity between Academy sims. That's for Advanced, once you've gotten your skills polished. A continuing plot might be nice from time to time, but I prefer Academies that are single missions. And I see no problem with dying.

 

That is, as long as I'm not skewered with a light sabre by my CO!!!

 

^_^

[Seiben 0]

Hey, man.. destroying the ship and/or killing the cadets are half the fun and make the STSF Academies for what they are! ^_^

[NDak 0]

I have attended about 60 something sims since I joined the STSF group and I have noticed that the GMS have a habit of either 1. Destoying the ships or 2. Killing everyone off at the end of the sim. Now this may be a way to end it but I think it would be even more fun for everyone if we continued the sim on the next week Not everyone who was there the previous week has to attend because there are always new people and for those like myself who do them almost every night we could keep our positions. It would work and it would be interesting at least for another week to see what happens. For example if STSF Jami and Jorlis ran a sim with the Janus on Tuesday they could continue that same scenario the next week. This I think would increase attendance as well because I see often enough that people like to just jump in. After all that is what we do when we join an advanced sim. I will speak to the GM's about this and maybe you all could give me some ideas.

 

First, KBear does on occasion run hers for more than one week when the interest is their, and it makes sense too. And I am pretty sure that Dac has did a continuence from her Sunday one to her Wed. one.

 

Second, Thier isn't anything wrong with occasionally doing this (as Kbear does), however I can at least envison a few problems that would arise:

 

1)The Acadamies would start to turn into more of advanced sims with all the continuing plots...

2) the problems that arise when some one doesn't show up and someone else is posted into their position

3)More work for the GM's to have to create a plot that runs for more than one sim. While the GM's aren't lazy or anything, I imagine it would make things a little more difficult for the ones who run advanced sims to not only prepare the longer (slower) style simplots for sometimes two advanced sims AND and academy or two.

 

Third, Exactly what Hans said. Its one of those fun quirky things that make, at least for me, STSF Acadmies fun.

 

::tosses in some cents and some lint into the jar::

Edited June 13, 2004 by NDak

[Seiben 0]

Yes, exactly what NDak said. While a continuiation Academy sim is good once in while, it probably wouldn't be prudent to have one too often.

1, as Dak said, it takes a GM a lot of time to actually come up with an academy plot, and a continuation will only make it that much harder for them

2. The factor of new people just joining for the first time must be taken into consideration. It will require more time to bring these individuals up to speed, and will result in confusion especially if the player is new to simming.

 

2A. As such, this might result in disruptions, blitzing of the Gms via PMs resulting in slowing down the academy that much more.

 

3. The decision is entirely up to the GMs running the Academy. Though some GM's styles might be to continue off an academy sim, most do like to have their academies end in one week, and start a new one the next.

 

4. The ongoing continuation of academy probably will prove tedious and boring to some players. some players do like a sense of variety in their academies. If the academy plot, cannot be completed in 1 or 2 academies, how long will it take? If the ongoing plot is too long, people might loose interest causing a drop in attendance.

 

But as I said before, a continuation plot in Academies, can be fun.. but not something I think the GMs will really do all that often. ^_^

 

::tosses in some loose Canadian change, from under his sofa in the jar::

Edited June 13, 2004 by Seiben

[John_Anderson 0]

Bah, blowing up Cadets in the Academies has been a decade long tradition!

 

That's why so many people enjoy the Academies, simply because you never know what's going to happen. If you have any sort of continuity that runs on too long in an Academy, people will get bored and attendence to that Academy will decrease.

 

The Academies are simply to train Cadets and prepare them for the Advance sims.

 

So, if you want some continuity in your life, stick with your advance sim. ^_^

 

::Scowls at Dak for taking his change AND lint::

Edited June 13, 2004 by John_Anderson

[DaryusZaphodDracal 0]

I personally enjoy not having much continuity between Academy sims. That's for Advanced, once you've gotten your skills polished. A continuing plot might be nice from time to time, but I prefer Academies that are single missions. And I see no problem with dying.

 

That is, as long as I'm not skewered with a light sabre by my CO!!!

 

:lol:

^_^ :lol: Yea, I loved being a kittykabob, and since when did Starfleet start handing out sabers, huh? :lol: Oh well, I've been to a couple of continuing plot academies that stretched over a couple of weeks with Kbear, they were fun. I can see the point thouh that these are acadamy sims and you do have new people coming in each week and everybody does need to experience different posts at each sim to hone there skills as a simmer. I've played just about every post. And the Kobiashi Maru senario is something every cadet has to face. Meaning getting sucked out of airlocks, dissintergrated, and even run through with light sabers.

 

Zaphod,

"The rambling kitty."

[Tovan 0]

That is, as long as I'm not skewered with a light sabre by my CO!!!

 

^_^ .... Seriously its not my fault .... :lol:

[JesusTrekkie 0]

Bah, blowing up Cadets... That's why so many people enjoy the Academies... in an Academy, people will get bored and... The Academies are simply to train Cadets and prepare them for... life...

I personally love being either dead or wounded at the end of every Wed. night. That's what makes it fun. My favorite memories consist of nights when the Captain was the only one who made it out alive, and that one time where our ship was in four pieces and the XO had to inform us we shouldn't still be communicating being dead and all. So, I agree with this quote.

Edited June 13, 2004 by JesusTrekkie

[Tachyon 0]

It wouldn't have been so bad, except for the fact that I was away eating supper at the time the CO . . . of unmentioned name . . . skewered me.

 

By the way, this wasn't during an Academy sim, it was during one of the after hours ones. I still love dying, but not when I'm not there to witness it.

 

And no hard feelings, nameless person. ^_^

 

Besides, in Academy sims you can die as often as you like, even more than once per sim! How often can you kill off your character in an Advanced sim? How often will the Borg, Q, or a temporal anomaly keep on bringing them back to life until one day your character stays dead? The Advanced sims are just that: more advanced.

Edited June 14, 2004 by Tachyon

[Tovan 0]

Besides, in Academy sims you can die as often as you like,

I hold the record ^_^

[Farein 0]

6 times huh? since I didn't set the other record, (times attended academy before graduation) maybe I should go after yours. ^_^ how DID you die that many times in 1 academy?

[Vex Xiang 0]

This has probably already been said but I'll put in my 2-cents.

 

The folks going to the academies are either 1) Cadets or 2) Experienced players.

 

Cadets are there for training on how to sim, not how to build on a long plot. The shorter the plot, the easier it is to play. That's their purpose...so making them longer, and continuing them each week, will just cause confusion and hurt those who are really trying to learn.

 

Experienced players attend the academies because it offers a simming style where they can have fun without being committed to the timeslot every week. If they want to commit, they can always join another adv sim.

 

So continuing academies doesn't make much sense, IMO.

[Tovan 0]

6 times huh? since I didn't set the other record, (times attended academy before graduation) maybe I should go after yours. ^_^ how DID you die that many times in 1 academy?

I "accidentally" called Blu ... with a "z"

 

::runs as fast as he could before he dies again::

[NDak 0]

I "accidentally" called Blu ... with a "z"

 

::runs as fast as he could before he dies again::

Yes using a "Z" on the end of it...or spelling it 'Blue' or making kitty comments will tend to do that ;) Not that I know ANYTHING about it.... :P

[Webmaster 20]

Each individual Academy team make a decision on what type to plot/ending to use depending on different factors. Some of them include (but are not limited to):

 

- The number of people there

- Cadets being watched for graduation (GMs will use different styles of plots/endings to see how someone being watched for graduation will handle it)

- The mood of the GM

- What types of plots they've run lately

- How the cadets respond to the storyline (if they "just don't get it" chances are they're going to go boom...)

 

The situation each time varies a bit. ;)

[Dumbass 0]

There was one Academy sim in particular I wish could have been continued.

 

I was the MXO and we we were attacked by a squadron of rogue B'rel class Birds of Prey. The Klingons showed no mercy and we soon had to eject our warp core and remote detonate it, which took out some of their ships. After they boarded us our auto-destruct took out some of their crew. We abandoned ship in a variety of shuttles, life boats, and runabouts. Our CO died in the process so I had to take command, fighting a pitched battle all the way to the ground. We set up a temporary base and were preparing for hand-to-hand as the sim ended.

 

We still had working shuttles and runabouts so the sim could have continued the next week with a ground battle. Too bad.

[Saek tr'Vosh 0]

Well if Tov...........errr.....nameless COs wouldnt kill the cadets...we could have more continued storylines.....

 

But...

 

Its like this....

 

Academies are TNG episodes..quick and painless..

 

Advanced are more like Enterprises story arc...long and involved...

 

-AA- is like Arkham..only not as SANE ;)

[FredM 0]

Hey there,

 

The largest problem you run into with continuation of a specific Academy plot is...well, let me use an example. The sim ends one Sunday night with an AT beaming aboard the alien vessel. It has the CMO, AENG1 and ASEC2 on it. Okay, end of the Academy. Next Sunday night, everyone's ready to go...except there's one problem. You have a new CMO, AENG1 and ASEC2. The players who held those roles either didn't show up or if they did came in late.

 

So how do you now continue a plot where half the people don't know where the last one ended? Thus the issue.

 

Now, there have been continued story lines or themes between sims. Specific missions aren't carried over, but let's say, the "continued outbreak of the AJD9382 virus" is being dealt with for a month until a cure is found.

[Dumbass 0]

Well, the key to continuing that sim would be to anounce before it starts that it would be a multi-part sim, find out who can commit to the next week, and put them in those roles.

[Webmaster 20]

The problem again becomes getting those people to actually be there. hehe. I have done continuing plots before that try to have the same people, but what happens when the person for whatever reason does not show up? You can't leave certain spots open. They've got to be filled somewhere.

 

But like I said, this is up to each individual GM to decide what storyline best fits the circumstances. GMs have various scenarios that they are faced with and can respond with an appropriate storyline.

 

The Academy was never really designed to be a full part for a contuing storyline or a solid roster. That's the whole purpose behind the Advanced Sims. The training events are simply there to teach the mechanics of being able to move to an advanced game. ;)

[Apollo 0]

The problem again becomes getting those people to actually be there.  hehe.  I have done continuing plots before that try to have the same people, but what happens when the person for whatever reason does not show up?  You can't leave certain spots open.  They've got to be filled somewhere. 

 

But like I said, this is up to each individual GM to decide what storyline best fits the circumstances.  GMs have various scenarios that they are faced with and can respond with an appropriate storyline.

 

The Academy was never really designed to be a full part for a contuing storyline or a solid roster.  That's the whole purpose behind the Advanced Sims.  The training events are simply there to teach the mechanics of being able to move to an advanced game.    :P

Well put Webby.

 

So much more eloquent than my own two cents. ;)

Edited June 15, 2004 by Apollo

[aswe 0]

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