Academy Summaries...

[Vex Xiang 0]

I love Tovan's sim summaries of their unofficial academy sims.

 

I'd like the GMs to do this...though certainly nothing as in-depth or detailed as Tovan has been, its interesting to read not only the attendee list and mission brief, but also a brief on what happened. Its fun reading.

 

Of course not many GMs post acad chat logs or briefs either. And more Adv Sim GMs need to start posting their chat logs. All that history is going to waste ;)

 

Good job Tovan...GMs could learn something from ya <_<

Edited May 11, 2004 by Vex Xiang

[Tovan 0]

I love Tovan's sim summaries of their unofficial academy sims.

 

I'd like the GMs to do this...though certainly nothing as in-depth or detailed as Tovan has been, its interesting to read not only the attendee list and mission brief, but also a brief on what happened. Its fun reading.

 

Of course not many GMs post acad chat logs or briefs either. And more Adv Sim GMs need to start posting their chat logs. All that history is going to waste ;)

 

Good job Tovan...GMs could learn something from ya <_<

Woohoo some one ACTUALLY reads them!

 

Thanks Vex :blink:

 

Once you get writin', there is no stoppin'

 

- ToVaN

[Webmaster 20]

Hi there,

 

Sometimes there is not a lot of time for GMs to keep notes about what happens during a sim as far as the plot goes. The GMs are generally busy trying to coorindate the sim, help new members understand how to sim, deal with any issues that arise during the event, as well as keep notes on cadet's progress towards graduation.

 

Logs of each event are kept by the GMs, so if anyone has any questions about what happened during a particular Academy, please let me know. I will dig up the log and you can read it. <_<

[Vex Xiang 0]

Logs of each event are kept by the GMs, so if anyone has any questions about what happened during a particular Academy, please let me know. I will dig up the log and you can read it

 

Having the individual GMs posting the logs (to a special place on the board perhaps) would take a minute extra of their time and would make your life easier I think, Webby <_< They used to upload acad logs all the time to Mem Prime. ::shrug::

 

Or maybe restrict the number of sims that a GM can host in order to free up their valuable time. If a GM dedicated as much to their hosted acad sim as they did to the hosted adv sim, imagine how great that acad sim would be!

 

Just a thought... ;)

[Webmaster 20]

The problem right now with getting the logs posted to the boards is not the fault of the GMs. It's the fault of the new chat system.

 

While the rooms are very functional and have several nice features... one area that is lacking is the logging system. There is only one log generated per day for it. That means GMs have to go in and strip each log to have only the comments from they're events in there.

 

The rooms are powered by a 3rd party technology, so it's not something I have direct control over. But there are changes in the works for it. It will just be a while before it's ready to go live.

 

I have a copy of ALL master chat logs available to me. If you are curious about an event, PM me.

[Webmaster 20]

Also... while I'm thinking about it...

Having the individual GMs posting the logs (to a special place on the board perhaps)

This has been done for quite a while.

 

Academy Chat Logs

 

As I go back and look... this has been done for over a year. A library for both Academy and Advanced sims was created on March 6, 2003.

[Vex Xiang 0]

This has been done for quite a while.

 

Academy Chat Logs

 

 

::sticks foot in mouth::

 

 

While the rooms are very functional and have several nice features... one area that is lacking is the logging system. There is only one log generated per day for it. That means GMs have to go in and strip each log to have only the comments from they're events in there.

 

Does it import to a text program (like MS Word) with a find feature? It would be easy for the GMs to generate markers for their particular event. Such as XIANGLOGOPEN and XIANGLOGCLOSE and then search for those particular terms and splice the contents. Unless they already do that. <_<

Edited May 12, 2004 by Vex Xiang

[Atragon9 0]

Does it import to a text program (like MS Word) with a find feature? It would be easy for the GMs to generate markers for their particular event. Such as XIANGLOGOPEN and XIANGLOGCLOSE and then search for those particular terms and splice the contents. Unless they already do that. <_<

Yes, Vex - we can cut down the culling process with marking and pruning the marked lines, but it still takes time to be sure all the right lines are marked and the word wrap and the spacing and the removal of the date and time codes, etc., etc.

 

In theory, we could also just post the daily log, as is, for all rooms for the day, but this does not work for a few reasons. One reason is that it is very difficult to follow just one room if you want to catch up on a sim while reading the criss-cross postings from all rooms. Another reason is that it will include the middle of the day when the room is not monitored and, trust me, some of the things being said in the room when unmonitored are not appropriate for dissemination. Finally, there are sims that run across the Midnight ET border and that is when the log is generated by the system. So, for some sims, we need to combine two logs to get one sim log.

 

In other words, we are waiting on an upgrade to the chat room system here to get better logging, but in the meantime we sim because the rooms are in place and stable (no, we are not looking into getting a new chat system, so hold off on all offers for now). I send the daily logs to all advanced GM teams and I'm hoping that they are producing and distributing their ship/station logs to their crews.

 

Thanks for your question.

[Vex Xiang 0]

In other words, we are waiting on an upgrade to the chat room system here to get better logging, but in the meantime we sim because the rooms are in place and stable (no, we are not looking into getting a new chat system, so hold off on all offers for now). I send the daily logs to all advanced GM teams and I'm hoping that they are producing and distributing their ship/station logs to their crews.

 

Thanks for your question.

 

Thanks for the answer. That actually completely explains why chat logs are so infrequent lately. I wasn't aware (and I'm sure most were not aware) of the logging problems the chatroom has.

 

Again, thanks.

 

trust me, some of the things being said in the room when unmonitored are not appropriate for dissemination

 

Is it possible to apply a word filter to the rooms or would that just cause more problems than it would solve?

[FredM 0]

Thanks for the answer. That actually completely explains why chat logs are so infrequent lately. I wasn't aware (and I'm sure most were not aware) of the logging problems the chatroom has.

Hey there,

 

Let me give you an example (edited to a certain extent) of what the unedited chat logs look like when we get them. And this is only a period of 30 seconds from a chat log which is often close to twenty pages long. <_<

 

For reference, at the time of this recording there was:

• Miscellaneous Chat - Lobby (Room 0)
  
• Thursday Night Academy @ 10:00pm - Holodeck (Room 1)
  
• U.S.S. Reaent Advanced Sim - Ready Room(Room 2)
  

Thu May 6 22:48:09 2004:LtGeorgeMcLean [2/] Msg:::throws his hands up:: You said it not me!

Thu May 6 22:48:12 2004:nickb1981 [0/] Msg:massachusetts

Thu May 6 22:48:12 2004:DakotaSantorez [1/] Msg:<cmo><csci> as far as to go down in the record books 2 inches it grows weekly and smells more and more like cotton candy

Thu May 6 22:48:17 2004:Aaron_Scherer [2/] Msg:Really

Thu May 6 22:48:17 2004:Alphaflyer35 [1/] Msg:<TAC>::Readies phaser::

Thu May 6 22:48:19 2004:volchdusema [1/] Msg:<CSEC> ::Fires at 2 intruders, both fall to ground.::

Thu May 6 22:48:23 2004:Ki_rok [1/] Msg:<CSCI> +<ASCI> Ens, as soon as medical sends you there readings ...run a scan on the ship locating all infected areas..and forward to the transporter chief...understood?

Thu May 6 22:48:24 2004:shamor [2/] Msg:Nope, that's an old Zemun proverb

Thu May 6 22:48:31 2004:j1701 [0/] Msg:do u subscribe to the star trek communicator?

Thu May 6 22:48:45 2004:Alphaflyer35 [1/] Msg:<TAC> ::Fires at another intruder, he falls to ground::

Thu May 6 22:48:45 2004:Ens._Angie5 [1/] Msg:<ASCI>::Enters ME:: <ASCI><CENG> Sir, I suggested the possibility of containing the life form in the cargo bay, he informed me you and others already have a means of containing it and sent me here.

[Marris Krax 0]

Well, Sovak, Blu, and Jami all post logs in some form or another. ::hands out candy bars to the three of them:: Now how about the rest of you guys? ;)

 

P.S. That's not especially difficult to read if you're used to reading through chat logs, Fred. And using that little "find next" feature in Word would make it fairly easy to find a marker like Vex said. Or at the very least, posting the roster and the mission brief like Sovak has done would be something. C'mon guys, this is cutting and pasting, this isn't diffcult. For once can we have some, "Yes we can!" instead of, "No we can't!"? <_<

Edited May 12, 2004 by Marris Krax

[Dumbass 0]

Is it possible to apply a word filter to the rooms or would that just cause more problems than it would solve?

Oh, God, no! Anything but that! You end up having trouble with legitimate words like "assume" and "boobytrap" and "cockroach" - and trust me, you DON'T know what it's like to have to sim on a Klingon ship and not be able to talk about cockroaches! Plus we won't be able to "blow" up anything. The best we can do is "****" them up.

 

Besides, you have to remember that some of the GMs have virgin ears and will need an 8-year old to point out the naughty words for them. <_<

Edited May 13, 2004 by Dumbass

[Tovan 0]

Good point Van roy, back to the start of this topic ... i have too much time ... life so dull, so i write ... :: hears chirping the in back ground::

[LoAmi 0]

Got awk? ;-)

 

How to use it:

Set the STARTTIME, ENDTIME and ROOMNUM variables.

Run it through the awk interpreter. (there's an awk interpreter for just about every system).

 

Example (Unix; probably works on MacOS X too)

 

If I have two chat logs, say, chatlog1 comes from day 1, 2 from day 2:

 

cat chatlog1.txt chatlog2.txt | awk -f chatlog.awk > output.txt

 

The output will appear magically in output.txt with room number removed (timestamps are optional and it's quite easy to remove them as well, just follow the instructions in the code).

 

On Windows systems, if you have more than one file, just splice them together:

copy chatlog1.txt+chatlog2.txt chatlog3.txt

and type at the command prompt (command.com under Win95/98 cmd.exe under NT/2000/XP):

type chatlog3.txt | awk -f chatlog.awk > output.txt

 

GNU Awk for Windows may be found at:

http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/gawk.htm

It must be installed before this will work!

 

 

Edit, use, modify, distribute to your delight.

 

IMPORTANT NOTE: Previous versions since this latest repost (May 16 11:30PM EST) may not work correctly on all systems. I've done some testing with raw chat logs and this works correctly on my system. Please report bugs to [email protected]. Thanks.

chatlog.awk

Edited May 17, 2004 by LoAmi

[Dumbass 0]

Well OK, I'll sumarise what happened on the QoB-Lakota last night:

 

* We teased Messner (STSF Lebowski) about always burning something on sim night.

* I mentioned I had half a pizza in the other room. Everyone got hungry.

* Garnoopy left the sim to get some Oreos and milk.

* Daryus's character, a half-Catian, had his physical. When Dr. Garnoopy gave him a tongue depressor I said "What's wrong, Daryus? Cat got your tongue?"

* My character stunned Messner with a phaser, picked him up, and then finally said "You are under arrest."

* BcH (STSF Huff), also stunned, had to be brought to the shuttle. That was my job. I asked - in character - "When we're done with her can I keep her?"

* We brought 2 other Klingons of unknown origin back with us. Daryus was guarding them and I said "Be careful, there is more than one way to skin a Catian."

* I flirted with Huff some more. In the next line she hit Garnoopy. I said "I love this sim! I flirt with Huff and she hits Garnoopy!"

* For once my internet connection didn't die.

* Huff anounced she would have some awards next week. We took informal nominations for Brain Fart of the Year.

 

As you can see, the really fun stuff had nothing to do with the plot. <_<

Edited May 13, 2004 by Dumbass

[NDak 0]

Well OK, I'll sumarise what happened on the QoB-Lakota last night:

 

* We teased Messner (STSF Lebowski) about always burning something on sim night.

* I mentioned I had half a pizza in the other room. Everyone got hungry.

* Garnoopy left the sim to get some Oreos and milk.

* Daryus's character, a half-Catian, had his physical. When Dr. Garnoopy gave him a tongue depressor I said "What's wrong, Daryus? Cat got your tongue?"

* My character stunned Messner with a phaser, picked him up, and then finally said "You are under arrest."

* BcH (STSF Huff), also stunned, had to be brought to the shuttle. That was my job. I asked - in character - "When we're done with her can I keep her?"

* We brought 2 other Klingons of unknown origin back with us. Daryus was guarding them and I said "Be careful, there is more than one way to skin a Catian."

* I flirted with Huff some more. In the next line she hit Garnoopy. I said "I love this sim! I flirt with Huff and she hits Garnoopy!"

* For once my internet connection didn't die.

* Huff anounced she would have some awards next week. We took informal nominations for Brain Fart of the Year.

 

As you can see, the really fun stuff had nothing to do with the plot. <_<

::snickers:: Thats why on the Republic we have the "Blu Prints"

 

 

oH and Van Roy I love the Caitian jokes....::takes notes for Apollo::

[FredM 0]

That's not especially difficult to read if you're used to reading through chat logs, Fred. And using that little "find next" feature in Word would make it fairly easy to find a marker like Vex said. Or at the very least, posting the roster and the mission brief like Sovak has done would be something. C'mon guys, this is cutting and pasting, this isn't diffcult. For once can we have some, "Yes we can!" instead of, "No we can't!"? <_<

Hey there,

 

Just a few points here. :blink:

 

Your correct, Word can find the marker. Issue is, that's all it finds...that one specific marker. While I have no issue with going thru and editing the chat log, I'm not certain in my sim's case the ends justify the means. If my crew has a question as to what transpired, they ask or read the brief. But when I find almost none are viewing/reading/accessing my twenty minutes of editing, kind of have to wonder. So, for sims and GMs that see the need, they're free to do so. Personally, I'll be waiting until the new chat log system comes out...at least where Reaent is concerned. :blink:

 

As for the roster, I consider that an internal document of the sim...a policy many GMs hold. So in the case of Reaent and Aegis, I wouldn't stay up all night waiting to find them online. Finally, I know in my case the mission brief is normally contained within a log. Rarely do I actually post/e-mail something titled "MISSION BRIEF." Guess that's just my style. ;)

[Marris Krax 0]

Hey there,

 

Just a few points here. :blink:

 

Your correct, Word can find the marker. Issue is, that's all it finds...that one specific marker. While I have no issue with going thru and editing the chat log, I'm not certain in my sim's case the ends justify the means. If my crew has a question as to what transpired, they ask or read the brief. But when I find almost none are viewing/reading/accessing my twenty minutes of editing, kind of have to wonder. So, for sims and GMs that see the need, they're free to do so. Personally, I'll be waiting until the new chat log system comes out...at least where Reaent is concerned. ^_^

 

As for the roster, I consider that an internal document of the sim...a policy many GMs hold. So in the case of Reaent and Aegis, I wouldn't stay up all night waiting to find them online. Finally, I know in my case the mission brief is normally contained within a log. Rarely do I actually post/e-mail something titled "MISSION BRIEF." Guess that's just my style. :blink:

1) Why are you spending 20 minutes editing a log? I'm fairly sure folks won't mind wading through the timestamps for the next few months until it gets fixed, and that should cut your editing time down to about 2-3 minutes, correct? And having a transcript is good for getting folks who aren't playing interested, not just for folks who happened to miss last week.

 

2) Who's talking about Reaent? We're talking academy sims ;) Mission Brief and Roster are fairly standard for academies, and not done in log form, unless y'all have suddenly adopted a new policy here.

 

Again, can we get a little, "Yes we can," instead of "No we can't," please? Doesn't even have to be a yes to what's being said here, but a nice alternative, if you can think of one <_<

[LoAmi 0]

I don't see why a simple text filter can't solve the chat log problem...

I've posted a working example a couple of posts above this one. It correctly parses the example chat log text by date, time and room number, and spits out a log of the form:

 

Username : Whatever the person said.

 

Beyond that, it's quite easy to extend to include more information, and even some simple formatting (eg bold, italics) that would be understood by the boards. It does not have any word censors, but, they can be added relatively easily *if* that's what you really want (I highly recommend against them:

"This ship i* ***. It's going to **** up... and it's full of ****roaches."

"I ***ume you can handle it yourself, I'm making a ****tail"

).

[Grom 0]

1) Why are you spending 20 minutes editing a log? I'm fairly sure folks won't mind wading through the timestamps for the next few months until it gets fixed, and that should cut your editing time down to about 2-3 minutes, correct? And having a transcript is good for getting folks who aren't playing interested, not just for folks who happened to miss last week.

 

2) Who's talking about Reaent? We're talking academy sims ;) Mission Brief and Roster are fairly standard for academies, and not done in log form, unless y'all have suddenly adopted a new policy here.

 

Again, can we get a little, "Yes we can," instead of "No we can't," please?  Doesn't even have to be a yes to what's being said here, but a nice alternative, if you can think of one <_<

1) The purpose for the two forums are to post the logs of the Academy and Advanced simulations.

 

2) I'll tell you why I have suspended posting my logs until a solution is found to the chat log program. Not only is it confusing for people to read through timestamps with people chatting in two or three rooms at the same time, but for new people especially, it's even more confusing to those who have never seen the position tags ( <OPS>, <CJAN>, etc.). It already takes a little effort to learn our style of simming, why should we make things more confusing by posting logs with jumbled text and with symbols that they have never seen before?

[FredM 0]

Again, can we get a little, "Yes we can," instead of "No we can't," please? Doesn't even have to be a yes to what's being said here, but a nice alternative, if you can think of one <_<

Hey there,

 

Perhaps I misunderstood Vex's thread starting post...

 

And more Adv Sim GMs need to start posting their chat logs. All that history is going to waste

 

And it isn't an attitude of "No we can't". Everything I've seen posted here is statements as to why it isn't happening. Is it physically possible to do it? Sure. Is it worth it given current problems with the chat log situation? That's where we disagree. ;)

[Vex Xiang 0]

No, you didn't Fred.

 

My post started out with a suggestion and this concern...

 

Of course not many GMs post acad chat logs or briefs either. And more Adv Sim GMs need to start posting their chat logs. All that history is going to waste

 

Which resulted in this...

 

::sticks foot in mouth::

 

And then finally this....

 

Thanks for the answer. That actually completely explains why chat logs are so infrequent lately. I wasn't aware (and I'm sure most were not aware) of the logging problems the chatroom has

 

And my suggestion about the tags was without the information that all the chatrooms were getting thrown together all mixed up...which means my tag suggestion is pretty useless. Which results in another one of these...

 

::sticks foot in mouth::

 

And thats when everyone hijacked my thread <_<

[Dumbass 0]

And thats when everyone hijacked my thread <_<

Oh, come on Vex, no one hijacked your thread.

 

It did fall off a truck however. ;)

[Marris Krax 0]

And my suggestion about the tags was without the information that all the chatrooms were getting thrown together all mixed up...which means my tag suggestion is pretty useless. Which results in another one of these...

::goes back and reads a little more carefully::

 

<_<

 

Hey Vex, got any more of that there foot?

[Tovan 0]

Hi there,

 

Sometimes there is not a lot of time for GMs to keep notes about what happens during a sim as far as the plot goes.  The GMs are generally busy trying to coorindate the sim, help new members understand how to sim, deal with any issues that arise during the event, as well as keep notes on cadet's progress towards graduation. 

 

Logs of each event are kept by the GMs, so if anyone has any questions about what happened during a particular Academy, please let me know.  I will dig up the log and you can read it.  ;)

Hey Webby are you just busy or can't find the 12pm sim at sunday? Because i really those logs :D thanks. Sunday may 2, 9, and 16 logs. :)

Edited May 22, 2004 by Tovan