Are academies woth it?

[ens_tino 0]

I know what everyones answer will be but still. The reason I'm making this is because, someone in a different forum said it was a waist of time. My answer is no, it is not a waist if time. It teaches new skills to people who are just starting out and if you already know how to sim you get better at it through these academies. Thats how I learned to sim was through the academy. I know this person has a right to say this but I just want to know everyone elses opinion on it.

[T'Aniz Jozef 0]

A resounding YES !!

 

Agree with all you said, Tino. Just wanna add my main reason: 'cause it's fun !!

[Travis Kroells 0]

Wow, talk about a freaky month, I agree with A9, my rantings make sense, some one eggs the toilet in our school, (yeah, we're figguring it was one of the "special" kids) I have an awsome thanksgiving I still cant remember, and now Im agreeing with Tino!

 

I dont really use the academies to learn new skills and such, I've pretty much developted how I sim and write logs, but the academies are still great, to just go down and have a sim that you can have fun with.

 

Not to say that the advanced sims arent fun, but in the academies, your can engage a bunch of borg drones, and blow your selves all up to prevent the rest of the crew from being assimilated. And if you decide to show up next week, theres no repercutions!

 

I see academies as an escape for those of us who become traped in a plot line. They want to make a drastic character development, but the plot line that the ship is curently runing doesnt allow it. Academies, you can just go, sim, and have fun with out worrying what will happen next week.

[Nemesis 0]

Academies are well worth it for several reasons it is a place where new people come to learn the skills for I know I didn't know what simming was before the academy. It's a place where graduated simmers can go to feel important by helping new simmers out on their trek. It also provides a place where all STSF simmers can go and socializr outside of their advanced sim so my answer is no academies are definately not worth not having :D :D

[ens_tino 0]

Academies aer very fun. I still think we should have that every cadet survives week. Especially with the academy I went to on Monday. We all got killed and it wasnt because the ship got blown up. The holodeck went nuts and these Indians killed us all except Nem.

[Nemesis 0]

Academies aer very fun. I still think we should have that every cadet survives week. Especially with the academy I went to on Monday. We all got killed and it wasnt because the ship got blown up. The holodeck went nuts and these Indians killed us all except Nem.

It wasn't Monday silly it was the same day the Arc occurs :D

[ens_tino 0]

It wasn't Monday silly it was the same day the Arc occurs :D

Darn. I cant keep the days straight now. Yesterday I thought it was Saturday.

[Merina 0]

I would like to say three MAJOR things: YES!!! IT'S FUN!!! THEY ROCK!!!

[Nemesis 0]

since people only seem to be saying good things I think I'll take the role of devils advocate just so it does seem like a debate :D

 

Academies should not be for it makes some cadets not feel as worthy as others when they graduate before them after entering after them. It also takes away a lot of the fun when you are trying to graduate veruses just simming. There are also a lot of times when GM's can't keep a full eye on cadets because of RL or other issues and this can make cadets feel as though they do not fit the bar or that there is some sort of personal vendetta on them from the GMs.

 

Now I got these from discussings from some people who have graduated but told me some of these things from their academy days and I would explain to them the certain stituations but I do think I should raise some of the bad things in Academies to see how we could improve upon them even though the GMs are indeed doing super job but there is always room for some improvement.

[ens_tino 0]

I would like to say three MAJOR things: YES!!! IT'S FUN!!! THEY ROCK!!!

That pretty much hits the nail on the head. Thats what I think about the academies. Even though your rarely live during them.

[Nemesis 0]

Actually you know the constant dying part did begin to wear on me during the Academy because you're not supposed to die in advanced sims so they should be making academies at least plausible to get through not exceedingly hard. I know that when I went into an advanced sim I thought I'd die every 3 seconds of course I didn't but you know its really hard to adjust and such. Academies really shouldn't feel like you're an ant and the GM's are little kids with magnifying lenses so I hope you guys can improve on that one you know do the academies on the cloudy days if you catch my drift :D

[Webmaster 20]

:::Makes a note to get a bigger magnifying lens:::

[Nemesis 0]

:::Makes a note to get a bigger magnifying lens:::

::buys a nice reflective uniform :D::

[Anika818 0]

I also have to agree with academy sims being worth while, but not because they teach some one to simm.

 

True, they do teach skills in simming, but it seems that once you graduate from the simms, you have to learn all over again in the advanced simms. For example, academies don't teach cadets how to write logs...thats something that comes with practice and the first few times its hard to do. Also in the academies, you learn how to label your station and what other ppl are. In an advanced simm, that is not the case...there is no labeling and you have to learn what other stations the other 15-20 something characters belong to.

 

...Now you may be wondering why I said they are worth while. This is because it gives advanced players and new cadets a chance to join together. Advanced players who have always wantd to blow up ships or break the rules of advanced simms can do so. It gives cadets a chances to see the fun side of simming and it allows members to meet. And cadets also get a chance to see what ships they would like to be on when time come for them to choose because of players they may have met.

 

Well....these are my thoughts :D

[Erein Vor'Tic 0]

yes they are. For starters, some of the cadets would just ruin some of the great sims. And plus, they are fun, were else do youget to die over and over again

[ens_tino 0]

On video games you die over and over again.

[FredM 0]

Hey there,

 

Before I even respond to the direct question, something I would like to point out. Online, there are hundreds of online text based role-playing games. The origins of some of these games are common, while others are foreign.

 

Second, the purpose of the Academy is not to make someone have the ability to be an Advanced simmer in a five step process. The goal is to ensure the person(s) seeking graduation have a basic and solid understanding of the underlining concept of the game. Do they know how to use the chat commands? Do they know how to interact with others? Do they have a good ability to communicate with others? Can they follow a mission? Can they work in a team environment?

 

Now, keeping that in mind, the Academy sim is a vaulable tool for someone new to online role-playing or even someone experienced with it. For those new, the reason is quite clear. Someone needs to become familiar with everything. For those with some experience, the same can be said. The format STSF uses for it's games may be 180 degrees different than where they just came from. So to say "I already know how to play" may be true, but at the same time may be false.

[Nemesis 0]

But Fred you can get the same thing from watching advanced sims and you would also know the workings of an advanced sim well before you even played so I ask the question again are academies really worth it

 

playing devil's advocate again :)

[Seiben 0]

Oh yeah, I think it's worth it. Even as a graduate, and a 6 month veteran of STSF it is not uncommon for me to still learn a thing or two at academies either. They go a long way in character development. Also, the feeling of helping to save your crew (like I did today in the Rianhassu (Romulan) academy sim with Blu and KBear) is just phenomenal. :-D

[Dumbass 0]

You never know what will happen in an Academy. I'm not as frequent a goer as I used to be but I stoped by the room today just to see if startrek.com had them fixed and KBear suckered me into joining. (LOL - she didn't even give me a choice. She just PMd me, said "Posted", and that was it.)

 

At any rate we ended up being joined by not only stsf_webmaster but someone I simed with on 3 different ships (2 of them non-STSF) and hadn't heard from in a couple months. Ya never know.

[Webmaster 20]

But Fred you can get the same thing from watching advanced sims and you would also know the workings of an advanced sim well before you even played so I ask the question again are academies really worth it

 

playing devil's advocate again :)

There is a difference between "watching" and "doing". :)

 

Just because I may watch someone put a bunch of stuff to the chat screen for an hour several nights does not mean I'll understand how the game is played. It will not show that I know how to interact with others and keep up with the pace of the event, or know how to react to being in the hot seat, or react to being totally ignored.

 

There are many things a person learns from actually participating rather than watching. You're never really 100% comfortable with something unless you've actually done it yourself. And that's what the academys are for. :)

[Nemesis 0]

There is a difference between "watching" and "doing". :)

 

Just because I may watch someone put a bunch of stuff to the chat screen for an hour several nights does not mean I'll understand how the game is played. It will not show that I know how to interact with others and keep up with the pace of the event, or know how to react to being in the hot seat, or react to being totally ignored.

 

There are many things a person learns from actually participating rather than watching. You're never really 100% comfortable with something unless you've actually done it yourself. And that's what the academys are for. :)

Thats not true many people learn many differant ways one may learn better by visual and some may learn by being hands on I was hoping for an answer like that they can still do watch an advanced sim but they can also do the hands on bit in the academy which opens them up to both methods of learning :)

[Ruca NEtani 0]

Personally, if it hadn't been for the Academy when I started out .. I never would have gotten into simming at all. It seemed silly to me, until I actually experienced it for myself. I definitely think they are worth it; plus .. it's our way of weeding out the spazballs before they get to our advanced sims.

[Nemesis 0]

Personally, if it hadn't been for the Academy when I started out .. I never would have gotten into simming at all. It seemed silly to me, until I actually experienced it for myself. I definitely think they are worth it; plus .. it's our way of weeding out the spazballs before they get to our advanced sims.

Hey if that was true I wouldn't be here ::spazes:: MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[ens_tino 0]

Thats the same way I started simming.