Welcome to Star Trek Simulation Forum

Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to contribute to this site by submitting your own content or replying to existing content. You'll be able to customize your profile, receive reputation points as a reward for submitting content, while also communicating with other members via your own private inbox, plus much more! This message will be removed once you have signed in.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Nemesis

Catians

26 posts in this topic

I just viewed Final Frontier and I think I've discovered what Blurox and Jarug are. That hissing thing that attacked Kirk in the Bar. I know I was wondering for awhile what they were now if the 2 Catians in STSF will approve my discovery I'd be happy :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

::tapping Nem on shoulder:: i think jaruq is somehting called a Felina (sp)   :wink:  :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think a lot of hissing things attacked Kirk in bars...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey there,

 

No, I don't believe so. While never mentioned specifically, if you watch the Federation Council scenes in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, you'll see a black haired individual (wearing Starfleet uniform) who looks like a giant cat face wise. That would be a Caitian. More details on the species can be found by looking at Star Trek: The Animated Series.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Erg, then who are the Lyrans?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I guess that would make me a Catian. (lol)  :)    :D    :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Are Catains canon? I wasn't sure they were. As far I knew the first Catain was Tigress and the name just caught on.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They were in both ST IV and VI as well as the animated series. But now whether or not TAS is canon is a very interesting question.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would argue that TAS is canon.  It had the voices of most of the original actors and was produced by Roddenbury.  In other words it was done according to his vision.  DS9, VOY, ENT, and all of the TNG movies including Generations were projects that Roddenbury had no involvement in, yet these are considered canon.

 

But my viewpoint is in the minority.  Apparently the defining criteria for others is not based on Roddenbury's vision.

 

But since the Catains were in IV and VI I guess this counts.  It's kinda like how many of the bit characters in Star Wars:  Attack of the Clones were originally part of the "Extended Universe" but Lucas likes them and used them, thus making them canon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

::gigling:: well you could argue whether or not ENT should be canon..... :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
::gigling:: well you could argue whether or not ENT should be canon..... :D

Personally I consider ENT to be a spoof.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

heheh i agree van roy...I am waitng for the Borg to show up at any moment

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why do you goes pick on Enterprise it is a very intellectual show conflicting morals and political issues. I am a little dissappointed in their latest season I had enough of that war on Terrorism stuff.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey there,

 

I would agree the TAS is canon. Almost all of the episodes were written by TOS writers, including D.C. Fontana. However, as mentioned, this is a debatable issue.

 

As for the Caitians, since they have physically been seen in the Star Trek movies, I would submit they are canon even if you don't think TAS is.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I am a little dissappointed in their latest season I had enough of that war on Terrorism stuff.

Hey there,

 

I think that's a topic you'd better get used to Nemesis. I don't forsee it going away anytime soon....in real life and in Enterprise's.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Why do you goes pick on Enterprise it is a very intellectual show conflicting morals and political issues.

a show with a semi-nude de-con room?  :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I would agree the TAS is canon. Almost all of the episodes were written by TOS writers, including D.C. Fontana. However, as mentioned, this is a debatable issue.

Especially since most Star Trek watchers don't even know there was an animated series.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I want to see TAS it sounds interesting but it was before my time and its not shown on any stations :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Enterprise's de-con room is scary...looking...  :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

TAS is cannon.. even if I never watched it. :D  

 

As to Caitians.. they are definitely cannon and have mention in ST encyclopedia, etc. Like Deltans, there ain't much info on em, so each one is played individually.. allowing for a lot of creativity. It also is a huge drawback, cause while you can create what YOU think the race should be like, it may not neccessarily be what someone else sees. It creates some interesting debates, and can be fun, or very aggravating.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
TAS is cannon.. even if I never watched it. :D  

 

As to Caitians.. they are definitely cannon and have mention in ST encyclopedia, etc. Like Deltans, there ain't much info on em, so each one is played individually.. allowing for a lot of creativity. It also is a huge drawback, cause while you can create what YOU think the race should be like, it may not neccessarily be what someone else sees. It creates some interesting debates, and can be fun, or very aggravating.

 

well personally i think it's better, sometimes when you know too much about a certain race you could play the character too much by the book without as much creativity

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
TAS is cannon.. even if I never watched it. :D  

 

As to Caitians.. they are definitely cannon and have mention in ST encyclopedia, etc. Like Deltans, there ain't much info on em, so each one is played individually.. allowing for a lot of creativity. It also is a huge drawback, cause while you can create what YOU think the race should be like, it may not neccessarily be what someone else sees. It creates some interesting debates, and can be fun, or very aggravating.

 

well personally i think it's better, sometimes when you know too much about a certain race you could play the character too much by the book without as much creativity

Well said, Images.  I agree completely.  You can over-analyze the character of a race to the point of obsurdity.  Vulcans are a perfect example.  Vulcans are known as a pacifist race.  A true pacifist would not join the military, even if drafted, because this would put him in a position where he might have to kill.  So why are there so many in Starfleet?

 

(By the way I have never seen Vulcans mentioned as pacifists in anything canon, but it seems to be a common understanding that they do have pacifist tendencies.  I personally think pacifism is an extreme position, and locking a race into an extreme position - to the exclusion of all other positions - is not logical.)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Vanroy, going off what you said...while the Vulcans are pacifists...I think their quest for logicalblity (is that a word?)  Would over come that...Say during the domminon war, it would be illogical to alow the alpha quaderent by the Domminon, and stuff like that...

 

It's a debateable issue, due to the fact that its hard to determin if war in any form is logical...it's most likely up to the individuall person...Some Vulcans might find it logical to defend the federation, which as united a good chunk of the alpha and beta quaderents...or just let it all be destroyed...once again...eye of the beholder.

 

And as for TAS...I dont honestly care, it's bad enougth I was born in the 80's but having to watch an animated Kirks chest...some one find me a gun.  :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I find it interesting that Star Fleet is considered "The Military". While Star Fleet does indeed provide protection from threats such as the Dominion and the Borg, it's primary function is Exploration, which would greatly appeal to many Vulcans.

Also you cannot group all Vulcans as pacifists. If protection of the Alpha Quadrant is the only reason a Vulcan would enter conflict, then why were there Vulcan members of the Maqui? Surely they found no logical reason to join such a cause, I propose they joined for the same reason everyone else joined the maquis. They felt that the plight of the colonists in the DMZ was wrong, and in fact they felt strongly enough to act upon those feelings.

Yes, Vulcans do have feelings and emotions that guide them just as they guide any other race. Vulcans simply have more control over those emotions and usualy think things through a little more than most races would (or a lot more as the case may be).

As for Caitians, yes I agree that the Animated Series is "canon" or whatever we need to call it. I also agree that the cat faced aliens on the council would be Caitians, while the hissing creature that attacked Kirk is questionable. There are in fact several felinoid races in the galaxy, Jurag for example is not a Caitian but indeed a Felinian as mentioned. Actualy 1/3 Felinian to be exact. This is a similar but completely seperate race of feline humanoids.

 

Dr Telano Ren

Chief Medical Officer

USS Arcadia

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0