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AndrewLyon

Maybe someone can explain it to me...

Alright, we all know Star Trek has been off the air for well years.

 

Why does the price of the movies on DVD drop, but they still want close to $500 for an entire run of say DS9?

 

Can someone explain it to me, or did I miss that course at the Ferengi School of economics?

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Because if you like Trek enough to sit through all of DS9 they know you'll pay anything to get it, like a junkie will do anything for a fix.

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$70 retail price for a season of DS9 DVDs? That's considerably cheaper than when they were first released (about $120 or so per season). Prices have definitely fallen over time. Same with TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise.

 

Looks like a good bet, though, would be to buy all the seasons separately on Amazon (about $40 each).

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Or watch all 7 seasons, streaming on Netflix.

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Well it seems I surprise myself again in a short peroid.

 

A few months ago I bought a 360 on a lark when my DVD player died.

 

Now sadly in Canada, Amazon.com doesn't like to ship up here, however, Ebay does.

 

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**Happy Dance***

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I love my Trek, but not enough to collect all the DVDs. I've invested in TOS, Enterprise, The Animated Series, the TOS movies, Trek 2009, and that's it.

 

The crazy prices are coming down, sure, but not nearly as much as they should be. Every few years these remastered Trek sets - TOS, TNG - are released for what, at least $80.00 to $90.00 bucks a pop, usually?

 

Even if the price is dropped to $50 on a site like Amazon, that's straight up bull for the Trek fan consumer. Just because it's Star Trek doesn't mean we as the fans should be forced to pay the exploitive prices as set by the franchise Grand Poo Bahs.

 

@ Van Roy: You are correct, Sir.

 

@ Andrew: I like to refer to EBay as the Pit of Stuff. If you can't find it on EBay, you can't find it anywhere. Good luck with the search.

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Just to be clear Cale, I was the one who won the auction. Given how it's an 8-10 hour drive from Toronto to my place, I expect them within a week.

Yes, I already paid, even had to cough up tax..:-(

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FORCED to pay? EXPLOITive? How so? You make the decision to buy, don't you? I don't see any coersion going on. If you value the money more than the product then don't buy the product.

 

Like I said, they charge so much because they know you'll buy it at whatever price. If you stop buying they either stop selling or they lower the price to induce buying.

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@ Andrew: Happy DS9 viewing, enjoy.

 

@ VR: Trek fans boycotting? Right about the time pigs fly!

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Then don't complain about something you willingly pay for, and I better not hear any complaints about the poor writing quality either.

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Then don't complain about something you willingly pay for, and I better not hear any complaints about the poor writing quality either.

 

If you want to play it that way V'Roy, I can oblige you.

 

Star Trek fans made the franchise what it is, we can say whatever we want.

 

Let me be clear that it's just my opinion if I feel the prices for the Trek DVD's/seasons should be priced a little lower in keeping with the prices of other sci fi wunderkinds such as: Stargate, Farscape, Firefly, Babylon 5 and all that jazz.

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So then I am right to blame the fans for the demse of the franchse.

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So then I am right to blame the fans for the demse of the franchse.

 

Actually we can blame Voyager, and writters who didn't watch the original series who cooked up Enterprise.

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Folks, dial back the nasty tones or we close the thread, thanks.

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Will do, Admiral.

 

I think we all need to remember - really - how lucky and fortunate we are as Star Trek fans to have such a vast fictional universe to play in. Not many sci fi fans can say this. I'm sure there are die hard Browncoats out there that would love to trade places with Trekkers and have Firefly and Serenity enjoy the longevity that Star Trek has....

 

All the Trek TV shows have pros and cons. You can't blame we the fans, a particular series' writers, or a show for the so called demise of the franchise.

 

The latest film, Star Trek 2009, made thousands of dollars at the box office. Oh yeah, we're demise-ing all right...Trek is just gonna drop off the radar...uh huh...anyone here taps being played? No, we don't, because Trek is Trek. The franchise survived for over 40 years, Hello McFly!

 

The writers have jobs just like us, and are human. Some days are good on the job, some days are bad. We as geeky fans are fanatics (I mean...that *is* where the shortened form 'fan' comes from...) and are passionite about our Trek. We all - don't anyone deny it, because you can't - have one or two favorites among the series' that we're going to defend no matter what.

 

@ Andrew: you go for Deep Space 9, right? Chances are, you think it is 'The Awesome'. I go for TOS, Enterprise, New TOS. I think these series' (and movie) are 'The Awesome'.

 

I have no particular problems with Voyager, Deep Space Nine, Next Gen. So what if there were some issues with canon or writing or the actors? It ain't that important, because I can still enjoy the episodes and go off on an adventure with the fictional heroes of ours.

 

As for 'Enterprise' and the 'they screwed up the canon' argument, and cruddy writing, and who likes what series and why and what is totally wrong with VOY, DS9, TNG, TOS, etc, and why did TOS have to be retconned into New TOS and all the opinions out there:

 

What it comes down to is what you think is 'wrong' with a particular Trek show or movie or the franchise, another fan might really like that show/movie and the Star Trek franchise as a whole could be their lifeline to sanity if they are dealing with a personal medical condition or a death in the family or something equally tragic.

 

@ V'Roy: VR, if you want to claim the fans brought about the demise of the franchise, fine, go for it. But you gotta remember that the franchise holds meaning for a lot of fans, and hope for other fans who are fighting for a better place either in their own lives or elsewhere.

 

To be fair with regard to 'protecting our canon' and being the 'over-opinionated' fans that we can be, you know I'm not immune, right? Personally, the one thing I wouldn't be thrilled with is if Dr. McCoy was changed from a guy to a girl a la re-imagined Battlestar Galactica. Leave McCoy a guy, thank you, and I'm pretty good to go.

 

Go ahead, make Voyagers Ensign Harry Kim a girl and TNG's Riker a girl. I'm cool with that. =P

 

News flash here Folks, the Star Trek canon has been in constant change since Star Trek: The Motion Picture debuted way back in 1979. What, do we expect some dude or dudette to be hired at Paramount/CBS Pictures as the permanent Chief Officer of Canon & Writing Overseeing the Departments of TOS, TNG, NEW TOS, VOY, DS9, ENT? Really?

 

Bottom line is, I can still ride shotgun with my heroes. All my Trek franchise heroes, all generations! Yes!

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First Contact was great. DS9 was OK but they went over the top with making Sisko a relgious figure. (Roddenbery was an atheist. He would never have wanted that.) Voyager was OK. Insurrection was OK. Nemesis was crap. Enterprise was crap. Did we refuse too support crap until it got better? No, we begged and pleaded to get one more season. They had another year to put a proper capstone on the *franchise*, not just one series, and we got that lame These Are The Voyages finale. Was it bad writing? Yes. However, they knew we would support bad writing. We were like heroin addicts who didn't care about quality, we just wanted our fix and would have taken anything that was being sold. It didn't make sense to offer us quality because they knew we were a captiive audience.

 

Had we refused to patronise the franchise unless it got better it might have ended sooner, or it might have gotten better and brought in a new generation of fans and we wouldn't be talking about it now. It was worth the risk but we were too risk-averse to do the right thing.

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As for the fans who are the so called 'heroin addicts'? In my opinion, this type of fan is in the minority and really has no clue about being a Star Trek fan.

 

And as for the adverse to taking risks and refusing to patronize the franchise? I'd say the 2009 movie blew that out of the water. Just going by the box office success shows some of the fan base were and are ready for some kind of 'adventurous' upgrades and changes to the franchise, and I'm not talking about the retro-TOS setting.

 

Better late than never.

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But it was the hard core Trek fans that were the most critcal of the 2009 movie with all the "violations" of canon - even though there is an in-universe explanation for most of the changes. Really the only things that can't be explained is why Chekov doesn't have the Davy Jones / Moe salad bowl cut anymore and how he became a math wizard. Sure die hard Trekkies went to the movie but what made it successsful was a generation of new fans that were spared a lot of the infighting of previous generations.

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But like I said earlier, the hard core Trekkie will see anything with Star Trek n the title whether it is good or bad. We lucked out with the new movie in that it was mostly good but even had it been notoriously bad we would still want more of it.

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