The Best Idea For a New ST Series

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It was called Trekkies. Look for it in your local video store :D

Don't and say you didn't. :D

eh? why not is it a bad flick?

[ens_keraz 0]

ok I think it would be cool to do a academy series.

[Nemesis 0]

Well images they said TNG sucked so I think it was a bad flick no one insults my picard.  :cry: now why doesn't anyone want me as a captain of a starship braving the elements in search of new world and civilizations WHY!!!! :cry:

[MisterSmith 0]

You know. The academy series would attract younger people into trek., especially college kids. I think, if the show dealt with real life issues like sex, drinking/smoking/drugs, choosing a career, studying, things that real college and high school kids have to go through, people will definitely go for it. You can have kids from different backgrounds for example:

 

6 characters like Friends:

 

T'ran - Andorian, Father is a starfleet captain

John & Jake, Twins, Human - Mother works with T'ran's Father.

Miral Paris (Would have a connection to attract Voy's viewers. Also might have Jake or Nog, or Alexander.)

 

Anyone else have any ideas for characters. Eventually we'll put together a list of the "Friends" and maybe even cast them. I'll do it using post from all of you. :D

 

My 2 Dollars and 50 Cents

Dr. Smith

[Vex Xiang 0]

Anyone else have any ideas for characters. Eventually we'll put together a list of the "Friends" and maybe even cast them. I'll do it using post from all of you.

 

I have visions of "Star Trek Creek" all the kids have teenage romantic angst and their world "falls apart" about stuff that really doesn't matter. They all sleep with one another during the show, get dumped, start dating others. One character dies and at the end of the series they all pair up.

[Nemesis 0]

You know. The academy series would attract younger people into trek., especially college kids. I think, if the show dealt with real life issues like sex, drinking/smoking/drugs, choosing a career, studying, things that real college and high school kids have to go through, people will definitely go for it. You can have kids from different backgrounds for example:

 

6 characters like Friends:

 

T'ran - Andorian, Father is a starfleet captain

John & Jake, Twins, Human - Mother works with T'ran's Father.

Miral Paris (Would have a connection to attract Voy's viewers. Also might have Jake or Nog, or Alexander.)

 

Anyone else have any ideas for characters. Eventually we'll put together a list of the "Friends" and maybe even cast them. I'll do it using post from all of you. :D

 

My 2 Dollars and 50 Cents

Dr. Smith

That there is exactly what I am afraid of star trek is meant to focus on the broader aspects of humanity not stupid kids teen agnst and stupid stuff like that. Star trek is a show based on morality, humanity, and "maturity". If we turn the seriousness of star trek into a teeny show I might just die in shock in disbelief to see that people would truly want such a horrendous thing.

[Captain Huff 0]

I surely agree, maturity is a good thing.  But I wouldn't consider academy age "teen" years, and the issues of becoming who we will be for the rest of our lives is never trivial.  What I propose is to treat this early career stage with the maturity it deserves, and NOT make it into a campy sitcom.  So I still say, *done right*, it could be a very powerful series.

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if you want to see a bad show about aliens snogging, watch roswell. I would prefer to watch something with a little more class and the ptential for a good academy program IS there. just no teeny claptrap.

[Nemesis 0]

And the winner is ::drum rolls:: could someone go catch that ::a roar of laughter is heard:: well now in a seriousiness with 6 votes its Riker and his ship the Titan, followed closely behind by SF Academy with 5 votes congratulations to our winners and all those who voted and gave their imput ::a loud applause can be heard::   :D

[Zertz 0]

My 2 Dollars and 50 Cents

Wait a minute *checks pocket* Thats my 2 dollars and 50 cents! At any rate, if I could vote again, it wouldn't have been for other, I have come to thinking that a series based way in the future could give alot of room to play around while not damaging the canon timeline like Enterprise seems to be doing. Although a Klingon Based series would be nice if they finally told us what happened to their heads!  :D

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maybe the kilingons in power at that time were a smaller minority but were booted out, sort of like the romulan-reman thing in nemesis

[Nemesis 0]

Maybe just maybe I know this is a shocker and far fetched but the Klingons didn't have the ridges in TOS because oh my heres the shocker they didn't have enough money and costume design wasn't as advanced in the 60's and when it came time to do the movies our ole pal Gene wanted to up their appearence and gave them their stylish ridges and was later carried to the other series. I know I'm crazy but that might be the reason. Ok here is a real solution the ridges could not be seen by humans in TOS because klingons thought them weak inferior and dishonourable so they had a cloaking device on the ridges and later found them equal foes and decloaked their ridges :D

[Nemesis 0]

I've figured it out why Huff truly wants an academy series. She wants to look at all the male cadets with their boyish good looks. Ha I caught you in your little game or I am just far off and completly wrong. I say I'm half right if not completely :D

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Um Nemesis, about the ridge thing, i'm worried about you.

About the huff thing i'm even more worried!

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you know another thing, once when i was a closet trekkie and only caught the odd TNG show (yes it really is true) and DS9 was just starting, i was always under the impression it was a klingon show! of course i did learn i was a silly person very soon.

[Captain Huff 0]

ROFL!!  Ooo...

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oh dear, you've got her started. do you have any idea what you've done nem?

[DrDMatthews 0]

I surely agree, maturity is a good thing.  But I wouldn't consider academy age "teen" years, and the issues of becoming who we will be for the rest of our lives is never trivial.  What I propose is to treat this early career stage with the maturity it deserves, and NOT make it into a campy sitcom.  So I still say, *done right*, it could be a very powerful series.

I think Huff is right. Done correctly, an Academy based series could be quite interesting. Unfortunately, I don't think the guys in charge will allow that to happen.

 

I'm afraid the current honchos at Paramount would be unable to resist the urge to turn the series into "Star Trek Creek," as Xiang so aptly pointed out. That would be a total turn-off.

 

There are a lot of us old time fans who have followed Star Trek since that fateful Thursday night in September 1966. Many of us stuck with it through it's numerous incarnations. But many more gave up on Trek as it veered further and further astray.

 

I recently spent the afternoon with two old friends from high school whom I hadn't seen in ages.  They were my Trek buddies. We used to meet on Fridays and discuss the previous night's show. Now mind you, we graduated 35 years ago, yet there we were, sitting at this restaurant talking about Star Trek....and having the time of our lives doing it.  I was the only one who'd ever seen a Voyager or DS9 episode and I had only watched a few. My friends gave up on Trek after TNG. But they would like nothing more than to fall in love with it again. And there are a lot more like them out there.

 

If it is to live long and prosper, the guardians of Star Trek need to get their acts together.  They need to create an intelligent, thought provoking series that isn't totally dependent on special effects, holodecks and EMHs. Explore strange new worlds, seek out new civilizations and go where no man has gone before. And if their writers need help coming up with new ideas, they might consider visiting sites like this and reading some of the logs posted in the ship's folders.

 

Will that happen? Who knows. But one can always hope. :D

 

::tosses a couple of Tootsie Pops into the cup:: Sorry...I'm all out of change.  :D

[Vex Xiang 0]

How can they not like it though if they've never seen it? I at least gave Voyager a shot and I really didnt like it. DS9 was great until it turned into a soap opera in space - one big long plot that was 50 episodes long.

[FredM 0]

How can they not like it though if they've never seen it? I at least gave Voyager a shot and I really didnt like it. DS9 was great until it turned into a soap opera in space - one big long plot that was 50 episodes long.

Hey there,

 

Quite easily Xiang. Everyone knew the basic premise of DS9 and Voyager. You don't have to watch a single episode to get the idea.

 

DS9: A space station near a wormhole.

Conclusion: Your on a space station where ships come and go. Yes, this is quite close to Gene Roddenberry's "wagon train to the stars." Sounds more like the wagon lost a few wheels and became a motel.

 

Voyager: A ship lost in space trying to get home.

Conclusion: It's "Lost In Space: 1996." Sure, closer to Roddenberry's vision than DS9, but missing that critical element/character....Starfleet. The "Federation" and "Starfleet" were always a major part of Trek. It was a "supporting character" throughout TOS and TNG. Without it, the show/exploration meant nothing.

 

And what happened? DS9's rating sunk to the point that after the 3rd season they had to add a starship. Then that didn't work so they went and turned the "hopeful vision of the future" into Europe circa 1940. Yes, this is a world I'd love to live in. Of course, there was the entire concept of trying to make Sisko appear like he was the Almighty or something. Close to Roddenberry's vision of seeking out new life and new civilizations?

 

As for Voyager, ship went through 47 shuttles during six/seven seasons. She was destroyed one week, repaired the next. And when ratings for this new Lost In Space series declined, they tried to get males to watch by bringing on the Borg Babe. Ah yes, that's a wonderful way to try to get your core fan base back.

 

As for Enterprise, it holds some promise. However, now you've got a large fan base who expects/demands violence every single week. Star Trek seems to be losing it's ability to give a message about our society via a one hour episode. Instead, it's becoming more "blow something up every week and hope they watch."

 

TOS and TNG were about telling a story. Not so much about the distant future, but about ourselves today. In one hour, a major social injustice could be pointed out and dealt with. You'd come away knowing "You know, that isn't right." You could apply that message to the modern world. However, now, it seems to me more worried about blowing things up, sex appeal and did I mention blowing stuff up?

 

Now I'm not saying I did not enjoy many of DS9's episodes, some Voyager episodes and will admit I try to watch Enterprise every week. Yet, I will also say that my frustration level in doing so is growing.

[Grom 0]

TOS and TNG were about telling a story. Not so much about the distant future, but about ourselves today. In one hour, a major social injustice could be pointed out and dealt with. You'd come away knowing "You know, that isn't right." You could apply that message to the modern world. However, now, it seems to me more worried about blowing things up, sex appeal and did I mention blowing stuff up?

Blowing stuff up? That's our Job. :D In all seriousness, I have to disagree with you here.  The episodes that I enjoyed the most were actually the ones that didn't deal with "major social injustices."  What drew me to Trek was the fantasy world that was depicted.  Very simply, I thought it was cool.  Mr. Roddenberry's view of the future was interesting to me.  I thought of it to be creative and imaginative.  But that's it, that's as far as I go.  Neither do I put Gene Roddenberry on a pedestal as some sort of revolutionary, nor do I hold to most of his ideals that many Trek fans say is the answer to the world's problems.  You want reality of what's going on in your country or the world? Get out there and stop watching TV telling you how it "really is."  ::D:  There's a big world out there...see it for yourself and make your own judgements.  

 

I do not see Enterprise as promising.  I see it as a bombardment of the ideologies of the writers who want to get their say on today's hot debates.  Season two certainly proved that.  If they tailed back on their agenda and reintroduced creativity and originality, then I think you'd have a healthy viable show with a decent fan base.  Unless this is done, in my opinion, Enterprise is good for four seasons.

[Nemesis 0]

Gromvik I myself do take in Roddenburies priniciples and change them into my own. I dissagree with you completely Gromvik with Enterprise for it is here to go question morality and give people more thoughts to question their morality and develope new opinions to create a better society. The greatest lesson taught in Star Trek is the Prime Directive and which is one I agree entirely with for it was not only Roddenbury's thought as most people think but one that has existed for many years but no one listened to it greatly till Star Trek. I believe in the Prime Directive for it has shown itself greatly not ownly in Star Trek but in real life and if you want to discuss with me the real life stituations contact me over AOL and MSN for it might be something not appropiate for the boards.   :D

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Well yes, i think that trek isn't just about blue women in skimpy clothes or aliens with disruptors, it's about an enlightened future and trying to make the galaxy a better place. "Star trek creek" can't do that and neither can "Star trek: bloodfest!"

[AndrewLyon 0]

Might I dare suggest Star Trek: Star Trek. Where a ship is assigned to the Beta Quarderent for a ten year tour of duty of exploration. Where Starfleet can lend a hand if the problem is big enough. I dunno how this ship would get out there, maybe the warp engines would go hyper on powerup, and since Star Fleet was planning to explore that region, hey guess what you're ship has the job.

 

Now I'd like to see this in the senoir officers.

Captain: Former Security officer

XO:A women without breasts that make pluto look small

Tac/CSEC:A Clan Ruain, a race of people who look like Velicraptors

CENG:One of those blue aliens with white hair.

CSCI: A Horta!

CMO: A Human, from Australia.

Consuler:NO SHIP SHRINK!

 

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[AndrewLyon 0]

Whoops,

Helm/Ops: Vex, or as close to him as possible.