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[Atragon9 0]

I do know that I have another of you dancing with another of the B5'ers

Oh crap.  LOL!  Okay, I know about two of them, then.  How are the others?  Worth buying the DVD sets?  

 

And WHEN is Voyager coming out on DVD??

Well, you might want to rent it first (hmmm, wondering if they have separate discs for rent?)

 

It's a great story and some cool F/X but the acting can be a bit... stiff.  Maybe call it an Acquired Taste.

 

I think it's great stuff, but then again I like Max Von Sydow as Ming the Merciless in the "Flash Gordon" movie, eh?  Yeah, yeah, I know...

[FredM 0]

And WHEN is Voyager coming out on DVD??

Hey there,

 

Well, Paramount started to release The Next Generation DVDs in 2002. Then, in 2003, they started to release Deep Space Nine DVDs.

 

From what I was able to look at, most folks are expecting an announcement from Paramount sometime in October/November 2003 stating that they'll be releasing Voyager DVDs in 2004. Supposedly it's been confirmed there won't be any Enterprise DVD releasing until after the show's off the air.

 

Will be interesting to see. Some folks are questioning if they'll put parts of the unedited/first filmed Voyager pilot on DVD. Yes, they reshot a large part of Caretaker due to changes in who was Captain and trying to figure out Mulgrew's hair style.

 

And just in case there are any people doubting Frederico...here's a copy of an image I located online. It's from "a" pilot episode, but clearly not the one we saw. :D

 

[STSF Precip 0]

I need to know about the others.  :D

Let us not forget..... we got Ivanova to pose with "The Piece"

Blurox, Huff...."The Piece" With Ivanova....what a coup!! Please if you get a chance...tell me the story of how you got Claudia for that picture!

 

Precip

 

::PS..thank you Blurox..for the story behind..."The Piece"::

[FredM 0]

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[Travis Kroells 0]

::runs in with a bad tan:: SG-1!!!

[Anika818 0]

I like Star Trek a lot...tt's what I grew up on! But I must admit I never got the chance to watch B5.  It sounds like an episode that you have to watch from the very begining.  Is it???

[Garnoopy 0]

Yes, they reshot a large part of Caretaker due to changes in who was Captain and trying to figure out Mulgrew's hair style.

Let us not forget they had to figure out how to fit an additional phaser in that bun of her's that the settled on for a while. (If you have any quetsions ask Fred, I'm sure he can find yout hat post from a long time ago.)

 

Ohhh, I'm buying Voyager as soon as it comes out. Let us hope it is soon and contains thousands of special features that will overwhelm the normal Voyager fan and send them into a Trek overdose in which there is no cure for.

[Atragon9 0]

I like Star Trek a lot...tt's what I grew up on! But I must admit I never got the chance to watch B5.  It sounds like an episode that you have to watch from the very begining.  Is it???

Well, you would get more out of it if you watch most of the episodes, but each one does stand on their own.

[Cmdr Laura Issia 0]

"The Piece" With Ivanova....what a coup!! Please if you get a chance...tell me the story of how you got Claudia for that picture!

 

Oh please.  Claudia's sense of humor is just slightly cleaner than Jerry's, and *he* has to tell the parents to send all the kiddies out of the room before he starts talking.    :D

[NDak 0]

Quote (Anika818 @ July 28, 2003  9:12 pm)

I like Star Trek a lot...tt's what I grew up on! But I must admit I never got the chance to watch B5.  It sounds like an episode that you have to watch from the very begining.  Is it???

 

Well, you would get more out of it if you watch most of the episodes, but each one does stand on their own.

 

 

I tend to disagree...maybe in the first two seasons you could miss one...but once they get in to the shadow war and when sheriden does his bit and ::in best kosh voice:: goes to Za'Ha'Doom, it is is hard to miss an episode and then know what is going on.

 

 

and so it begins...

none of us are exactly as we appear

[Atragon9 0]

and so it begins...

none of us are exactly as we appear

I would love to show you my Second Favorite Thing in the Universe!

[Travis Kroells 0]

And now:  Kroells's step away from startrek.

 

I love DVD box sets, I dont know what I'd do with out them...Any one remember the time you could buy like a 4 episode, two tape set of Star Trek and others, it was cool, but it sucked.

 

I have the first and second seasons of SG-1 on dvd and each box set came with 5 dvds, sure it didnt have much, if any extras but its better then buying about 15 video tapes.  

 

And now why the title?  DBZ baby!  With out the box sets I dont know what I'd do to get every episode, with almost three hundred (And thats just going through the sagas, not the extra stuff) Do you know how many tapes that would be!?   Sweet Jeebus I dont even want to think about it.

 

By and by, if any one knows where to get the Ginyu and the Cell games sagas, I'll have finaly completed my quest.  I pretty sure they havent release Cell games on dvd but I cant find the Ginyu any where.

[STSF_BluRox 0]

Quote (Anika818 @ July 28, 2003  9:12 pm)

I like Star Trek a lot...tt's what I grew up on! But I must admit I never got the chance to watch B5.  It sounds like an episode that you have to watch from the very begining.  Is it???

 

Well, you would get more out of it if you watch most of the episodes, but each one does stand on their own.

 

 

I tend to disagree...maybe in the first two seasons you could miss one...but once they get in to the shadow war and when sheriden does his bit and ::in best kosh voice:: goes to Za'Ha'Doom, it is is hard to miss an episode and then know what is going on.

 

 

and so it begins...

none of us are exactly as we appear

The Erein has the right of it I'm afraid. The show was writen to be a continous story, with each episode, somehow related to that main piece. You will see things in the fourth season, that will suddenly make the first season episode that confused you, make brilliant sense. The show did do approximately 2-3 "non-arc" shows each year. These were just fun episodes, that had litte real tie-in, other than to be otherwise entertaining.  

 

"I don't want to get killed because of a typo, it would be embarrassing."

-- Ivanova in Babylon 5:"A Day in the Strife"

[Anika818 0]

Ohhh, I'm buying Voyager as soon as it comes out. Let us hope it is soon and contains thousands of special features that will overwhelm the normal Voyager fan and send them into a Trek overdose in which there is no cure for.

Definately!!!! I loved Voyager, I by the end of the series I think the characters developed very well.

 

Do you think they will come out with VOY movies?  I ask bc the seemed to tie all the loose ends in the finale "Endgame"  Including makeing janeway an admiral in Nemesis...

[Anika818 0]

The Erein has the right of it I'm afraid. The show was writen to be a continous story, with each episode, somehow related to that main piece. You will see things in the fourth season, that will suddenly make the first season episode that confused you, make brilliant sense. The show did do approximately 2-3 "non-arc" shows each year. These were just fun episodes, that had litte real tie-in, other than to be otherwise entertaining.  

 

"I don't want to get killed because of a typo, it would be embarrassing."

-- Ivanova in Babylon 5:"A Day in the Strife"

So how did the write the series, was it similar to makeing a long movie and then creating it into series (kinda like the Sci-fi's mini-series :Taken).  Or could writers only add on if the kept to the story line...

 

Basically when B5 was written, which came first, the chicken (the story then looking at character development) or the egg (building the story as it went)?

[Jenna James 0]

Have to vote for Trek everytime.

Although I did watch B5, and enjoyed SG-1.

Never did like Battle Star Galactica. Thought Buck Rodgers was okay.  :D

[Atragon9 0]

The Erein has the right of it I'm afraid. The show was writen to be a continous story, with each episode, somehow related to that main piece. You will see things in the fourth season, that will suddenly make the first season episode that confused you, make brilliant sense. The show did do approximately 2-3 "non-arc" shows each year. These were just fun episodes, that had litte real tie-in, other than to be otherwise entertaining.  

 

"I don't want to get killed because of a typo, it would be embarrassing."

-- Ivanova in Babylon 5:"A Day in the Strife"

So how did the write the series, was it similar to makeing a long movie and then creating it into series (kinda like the Sci-fi's mini-series :Taken).  Or could writers only add on if the kept to the story line...

 

Basically when B5 was written, which came first, the chicken (the story then looking at character development) or the egg (building the story as it went)?

Yeah, defintely the chicken.  There is one driving creative force behind B5, J. Michael Strazsinski (I'm sure I spelled his last name wrong).  He had the over-reaching arc of the BIG story in his head before it ever started (just look back at the pilot episode after you finish the series and you'll be shocked at the number of hints dropped in there).  He wrote many of the shows that ran for the 5 years and was a very hands-on producer for the rest.

[Cmdr Laura Issia 0]

JMS outlined the entire series; seasonal episodes were frequently farmed out to other writers, however.  Even then JMS often dropped bits of his own into them.   He wrote the entire 3rd season single-handedly.  (Leading to a terrific clip on the blooper reel of him being carted off to a padded room still clutching his laptop...)   Still, you can see places where the story had to be altered because episodic television operates in the real world.   Recasting some parts after the pilot, then the commander at the end of first season, then losing Claudia at the end of fourth because of contract misunderstandings... actors getting injured (JMS: (paraphrased) "You may have planned to have a character fight her way out in a terrific brawl, but if the actress breaks her foot the week before you shoot, you have to improvise.").   It all affected the story, and if you track carefully you start to get a sense of how it was supposed to go, but it all hangs together in the end.

[NDak 0]

Yeah the pilot is told (or maybe the movie they made out of the pilot) by then Emperor Londo, and if i follow this right..he is telling the story the same day he captures sheriden (who is in that wierd B4 timeshift) and show him Centuari Prime burning...this is also the same day that he is killed...this was all spread out across the five seasons. however there is one thing that JMS never really explained...the exact purpose that the 'machine' served.

[FredM 0]

Hey there,

 

I was somewhat surprised that the creator of Babylon 5 seemed to lose it after the show was over. I recall him running around saying "Deep Space Nine is copying me! They're doing exactly what I did! They suck!", only to find out almost nothing is similiar between the two. Really amazing...

[Atragon9 0]

Yeah the pilot is told (or maybe the movie they made out of the pilot) by then Emperor Londo, and if i follow this right..he is telling the story the same day he captures sheriden (who is in that wierd B4 timeshift) and show him Centuari Prime burning...this is also the same day that he is killed...this was all spread out across the five seasons. however there is one thing that JMS never really explained...the exact purpose that the 'machine' served.

Actually, the movie with Emperor Londo is not the Pilot episode, that one is a separate film (they made 2-3 of those)

[NDak 0]

actually fred...JMS went to Roddenberry and Paramount with the story arc, he pitched it to them as a new Trek series...they turned him down...he went on and got someone else to produce it and then they come out with DS9...and there are some simalarites...most notablly the god figure/commander part.

[NDak 0]

OKay A9...i coulnd't exactly remember...it has been a long time since i saw either...oh and speaking of foreshadowing...in the pilot...Kosh calls Sinclair 'antel zar' (sp) which of course was valen's title

[Captain Huff 0]

Oh heck, I wasn't looking for a philosophical breakdown of the entire run!  lol!  I'll just pick it up AFTER I've paid for Voyager - every episode, every feature...  ::must have must have::

[ensign_Stron 0]

::Slaps his leg and spins around:: Voyager!!!!!!!,Voyager!!!!!  :D