TOS worst shows are...

[TKAR 0]

HI-just thinking of TOS worse show that i can't watch in my opinion are but not in order are.......turnabout intruder<not sure if its th bad acting or the script> spocks brain<except for deforest Part with the teacher and deforest and nimoy remarks on each other during the operation> Plato,children<nimoy,s dancing and singing><But the part with nicheal kissing bill makes up the episode>>And the children shall lead<Bad acting and script>--what do you think are the worst TOS show or shows ---any coment

[rosetto 0]

I think you've picked some 'pretty' BAD ones there. I think the third season was riddled with them simply because they had already written so many GOOD scripts... Bad acting can account for some, however, other's like 'Spock's Brain' were doomed. But one thing that we all must realize is that the target audience for this series was young teen-aged boys, 10-15. The scripts were written and tweaked to appeal to them. TNG scripts are much different. They appeal to a wider audience because they were written that way.

 

My Favorite TOS Scripts are:

 

Amok Time

Wink of an Eye

A Piece of the Action

The City on the Edge of Forever

[TKAR 0]

I think you've picked some 'pretty' BAD ones there. I think the third season was riddled with them simply because they had already written so many GOOD scripts... Bad acting can account for some, however, other's like 'Spock's Brain' were doomed. But one thing that we all must realize is that the target audience for this series was young teen-aged boys, 10-15. The scripts were written and tweaked to appeal to them. TNG scripts are much different. They appeal to a wider audience because they were written that way.

 

My Favorite TOS Scripts are:

 

Amok Time

Wink of an Eye

A Piece of the Action

The City on the Edge of Forever

-YOU did make a good point and i agree with your choices---my fav including yours -is----Balance of terror,amok time,journey to babel,cage,managerine,devil in the dark...

[Sam_SemaJ 0]

after spending an abundance of my time watching episodes of TV shows, many of them sci fi...I've come to notice the trend of stock plots (especially in sci-fi) to the point where I ocasionally see an episode of something and say Oh...this is going to be the token "main character has baby with special powers" episode, or something like that.

 

I think many would agree that TOS shows are 1)cheesy and 2)a source for a lot of these episode archetypes. However....my personal feeling is that the trekness and roddenberry idealismyness of TOS is enough to overcome the horrible production values and sometimes terrible writing/acting.

 

::transmits two hundredths of a credit to the "bucket" account::

[TKAR 0]

after spending an abundance of my time watching episodes of TV shows, many of them sci fi...I've come to notice the trend of stock plots (especially in sci-fi) to the point where I ocasionally see an episode of something and say Oh...this is going to be the token "main character has baby with special powers" episode, or something like that.

 

I think many would agree that TOS shows are 1)cheesy and 2)a source for a lot of these episode archetypes. However....my personal feeling is that the trekness and roddenberry idealismyness of TOS is enough to overcome the horrible production values and sometimes terrible writing/acting.

 

::transmits two hundredths of a credit to the "bucket" account::

 

 

yOu made a good point too

[T'aral 0]

Well, people have also mentioned most of the worst episodes. There are one or two others, but that's beside the point.

 

Looking over the episode guide, it really looks like ST-TOS burned through their best ideas in the first two seasons. In the third, they really kind of lost it. At least, it's pretty clear from the episode list that the 3rd season wasn't nearly as good as the first two.

 

 

And now: three emoticons from my son: :lol: :( :)

[Sorehl 0]

It does sorta depend on what definition of "worst" I go with.

 

If it's watchability, I shudder at "And the Children Shall Lead". Yuck. "The Way to Eden" comes next, even if I find myself singing "Headin' down to Eden, yea, brother" for days.

 

If it's pure storyline confusion, I gotta go with "The Alternative Factor". (Not to mention the laughable Fu Manchu that Lazarus sports.)

 

If it's bad science, it's "Spock's Brain" - although not the whole episode. The bridge scene where Kirk considers which planet they should search is almost like a TNG conference room scene. He gets input from Sulu and Chekov and Uhura in ways we don't usually see. And the technology of the Teacher is actually pretty cool. "The Mark of Gideon" comes in second - a planet so overpopulated that people are pressed up against the windows, but has room to build an exact duplicate of the Enterprise. Right.

 

If it's out-dated social commentary, "Turnabout Intruder" offends me every time I watch it. The implication that women aren't capable of leadership like starship command and need to "accept their place" was outdated even in the 60's. Sad that this was the last TOS episode.

 

As for moments of acting badness, my kids still thrill at shouting "IIIIIIII'm Captain Kirk!" with Shatner's wide-eyed, teeth-gritting mannerisms in "The Enemy Within". (My personal favorite is curling up with balled fists to shout, "Stop it! Stop it! You're KILLING heeeeeeerrrrr!" from "Gamesters of Triskellion")

[TKAR 0]

It does sorta depend on what definition of "worst" I go with.

 

If it's watchability, I shudder at "And the Children Shall Lead". Yuck. "The Way to Eden" comes next, even if I find myself singing "Headin' down to Eden, yea, brother" for days.

 

If it's pure storyline confusion, I gotta go with "The Alternative Factor". (Not to mention the laughable Fu Manchu that Lazarus sports.)

 

If it's bad science, it's "Spock's Brain" - although not the whole episode. The bridge scene where Kirk considers which planet they should search is almost like a TNG conference room scene. He gets input from Sulu and Chekov and Uhura in ways we don't usually see. And the technology of the Teacher is actually pretty cool. "The Mark of Gideon" comes in second - a planet so overpopulated that people are pressed up against the windows, but has room to build an exact duplicate of the Enterprise. Right.

 

If it's out-dated social commentary, "Turnabout Intruder" offends me every time I watch it. The implication that women aren't capable of leadership like starship command and need to "accept their place" was outdated even in the 60's. Sad that this was the last TOS episode.

 

As for moments of acting badness, my kids still thrill at shouting "IIIIIIII'm Captain Kirk!" with Shatner's wide-eyed, teeth-gritting mannerisms in "The Enemy Within". (My personal favorite is curling up with balled fists to shout, "Stop it! Stop it! You're KILLING heeeeeeerrrrr!" from "Gamesters of Triskellion")

 

GOOD POINTS--I agree with Turnabout Intruder too

[rosetto 0]

All I can say is, Sorehl.... you have a vast knowledge and memory! LOL I recently purchased the Season 2 DVD set at Walmart for $50; had the other two available at the time for same price and decided to wait. Now Walmart doesn't carry them and the only people who do want $80-100 for them! Augh..... Season 2 is probably the best season over all but I am missing some of my favorite episodes, "Wink of an Eye" and "City on the Edge of Forever". But as for BAD (in whatever category), I think Season 2 is one's 'best bang for the buck'. I will probably buy Season 1 next because there are more episodes...

[TKAR 0]

All I can say is, Sorehl.... you have a vast knowledge and memory! LOL I recently purchased the Season 2 DVD set at Walmart for $50; had the other two available at the time for same price and decided to wait. Now Walmart doesn't carry them and the only people who do want $80-100 for them! Augh..... Season 2 is probably the best season over all but I am missing some of my favorite episodes, "Wink of an Eye" and "City on the Edge of Forever". But as for BAD (in whatever category), I think Season 2 is one's 'best bang for the buck'. I will probably buy Season 1 next because there are more episodes...

 

 

interesting -which DVD season 2---is it the original one or the reissued with new ships_-<the one in the new clear plastic cases,not the old blue/yellow/red cases>

[rosetto 0]

interesting -which DVD season 2---is it the original one or the reissued with new ships_-<the one in the new clear plastic cases,not the old blue/yellow/red cases>

It says REMASTERED on it.... The colors are definitely richer than I have ever seen before. Spock is actually tinted green (only slightly as he is half-human) and Sarek's color is much more prominent. It's a pale fleshy yellow-green, not like the Orion's. The set also has "More Tribbles, More Troubles" as well as "Trials and Tribble-ations", TAS & DS9 respectfully.