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Is anyone going to watch the Avatar movie? What is everyone's opinion?

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I'd really like to see it...the trailers certainly look promising. Will have to see if I can wrangle a few friends into going to the movies with me (shouldn't be too hard. :D )

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I'll wait and see what you all think. :D Looks kinda over-hyped to me.

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Actually I've been waiting for this one to come out for a few years now, I'm just glad they've taken their time to try and get the CGI right. From the trailers, it looks pretty good. Yea, storyline seems to be a bit light, heck, I bet we've ran that plot on several of our ships already, but it looks entertaining. As for overhyped, most people have actually said the opposite, as unless you follow various sci-fi podcasts, not many have heard of this. I think they did the right thing not saying much before the Twilight mess all came out, why get lost in all that craziness. What alot of people missed, was back in August, they actually did a one day ticket sale for a special IMAX viewing that pretty much sold out in minutes. I totally missed getting a ticket for it, but wasn't going to ebay it like I did for Trilogy Tuesday...that, by far is one of the best things they every did with a movie and god I wish they'd do it again, and this time with the third movie extended.

 

I'll let you know how I feel after I get to go see it, but seeing as Cameron has already sunk close to 280 million into the special effects and casting, it's at least promising. You don't get too many fantasy/sci-fi that get green lighted for that kind of budget, unless it's already become one of the kids fads..(Potter, Twilight, ect).

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Rex I could not agree with you more, with something like this, almost any other director would rush it out the door the moment it could even resemble finished and it would be crap. I've super hyped up, hopefully I'll be able to see it while it's in theaters and not miss out like I did with District 9 (I was the only person in my entire family who wanted to see it and it went out of theaters before I turned 17 this year). I'm seeing it and I hope to hell it's good.

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I'll wait and see what you all think. :D Looks kinda over-hyped to me.

 

yes I agree. I work for McDonalds, we are going to do a special for the movie! (not sure what it is yet)

 

I think I heard that the people of earth are pretty much forcing these people out of their homes to get ::thinks:: something, a stone or something I dont know what. but It kinda make me mad.

 

lol

 

not sure Ill go see it. Im going to wait for reviews

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Did I read Avatar costing 280 million? Wow. From what I have seen in previews it looks fantastic..but dang..280 million..

 

-Precip

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Avatar is one of my favorite movies besides the Star Trek movies. It has a really good central message about respecting all forms of life. I'd give it 5 stars! :)

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I think I heard that the people of earth are pretty much forcing these people out of their homes to get ::thinks:: something, a stone or something I dont know what. but It kinda make me mad.

 

lol

 

 

 

Yes: the nasty, evil humans and their greedy corporate natures find a vast deposit of unobtainium ( no kidding: the hard-to-get stuff is called unobtainium ) that just has to be sitting smack-dab underneath the native Na'vi ( or is that native native? ) "Home Tree".

 

Nasty, Evil corporate white man beats up Peaceful Mother Earth Worshiping Love People. :)

 

 

For all the money they spent on this, couldn't they come up with something better than a Sci-Fi "Ferngully"? Seriously, Cameron put Battle Angel Alita on hold so that he could do this one. Alita would be SO much more awesome!

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Yes T'Aral:

 

I Agree that the script was definitely 'wanting'. The special effect...$280 million? Not worth that either. Not sure what they paid to make the Grinch but the Who's were more believable! I STILL say the if Hollywood put a quarter of that into Donald Kingsbury's COURTSHIP RITE they'd have a box office smash! It's a very believable and compelling story...

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Yes T'Aral:

 

I Agree that the script was definitely 'wanting'. The special effect...$280 million?

 

 

Add 7 to 8 years to finish from greenlight to the last day of visual editing... and it wasn't worth it...

 

The film... Visually is something worth watching... The story... Easy, boring, and nothing short of old rhetoric...

 

But hey, if you missed it in 3D at Imax... don't bother renting... Unless your home theatre is just as impressive.

 

On another note... the most expesive film to date was Pirates of the Caribbean at worlds end.... $300 Mill

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Enjoyed the movie: I don't really have anything derogatory (or pointed) to say regarding Avatar either way.

 

Visual bling, standard sci fi story with a modern "let's develop every piece of land in sight" cautionary message

 

Will I grab a DVD copy? Nope.

 

Always nice to spot Sigourney Weaver in a film though.

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I have a feeling it's probably going to suffer tremendously in DVD sales.

 

No one's going to buy it for the story and everyone's going to realize that it won't carry over properly on the small screen.

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For all the money they spent on this, couldn't they come up with something better than a Sci-Fi "Ferngully"? Seriously, Cameron put Battle Angel Alita on hold so that he could do this one. Alita would be SO much more awesome!

 

I'd rather thank the men and women in uniform who daily protect our freedoms than disparage them as James Cameron does.

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I'd rather thank the men and women in uniform who daily protect our freedoms than disparage them as James Cameron does.

 

Will, T'Mir and I thank you Grom, for your support

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While it's true that in the movie states that most of the security force were formed armed service members, it immediately follows up by stating that they are a private security force, hired by a company. I think it's safe to say that private security companies here in reality also hire heavily from former armed services members. We're boarding on opening a can of worms here, so I'll simply state my point that I don't believe James Cameron is trying to "disparage" the men and women in uniform, who do a very dangerous and courageous job of protecting our freedoms. If the movie said this was the U.S. Government and Military doing this, you could maybe have this debate. Since it's a private company, with it's own private military, I don't see how it applies.

 

I believe the moral of the story, was one of unchecked corporate greed, and a cautionary tale of mankind's "disconnection" with the world around him. The forests of Pandora are lush, beautiful and have a serene feeling to them. Scenes at the human compound are stark grays, and full of harsh sounds. Yes, the majority of the humans in the movie are portrayed as "bad guys", but lets try to look at that within the context of the movie's universe. It's a story about a group of people that try to forcibly relocate a group of indigenous people over an ore they put value in. It's never stated this unobtainium, or whatever is something vitally important to the human race. It isn't a cure for cancer, it isn't an end all energy source. It's simply about money.

 

Regardless, I liked the movie. Sure the story is rather...basic, and you can pretty much figure out what's going to happen a third of the way in, but I still enjoyed watching it play out.

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Why does 'STAR WARS' appeal to the masses? It is the same here. The movie 'Avatar' will appeal to more audiences than say 'STAR TREK XI' BECAUSE the plot is weak and the story is simple.

 

How many of you Trekkers liked 'Altered States'? 'Contact'? 'Deep Impact'?

 

Well, yet again it's the same theme. Trekkers tend to THINK and like 'heady' movies. Most people are NOT trekkers....

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Why does 'STAR WARS' appeal to the masses? It is the same here. The movie 'Avatar' will appeal to more audiences than say 'STAR TREK XI' BECAUSE the plot is weak and the story is simple.

 

How many of you Trekkers liked 'Altered States'? 'Contact'? 'Deep Impact'?

 

Well, yet again it's the same theme. Trekkers tend to THINK and like 'heady' movies. Most people are NOT trekkers....

 

 

You got me there Rosetto... I do love some Altered States and Deep Impact... Not a jodie foster fan though... :/

 

However I will say this... In defence of Star Wars it wasn't nearly as weak a plot as Avatar so bad comparison... I mean we're talking about a 6 movie arc story that carried us through two generations of rebellions...

 

Not to mention there is enough smartness whipped in to keep the "trekkers" interested. Yes it's more action heavy... But as we can all see TODAY with Star Trek XI... Trek is having to follow those same footsteps to stay alive and gather more of a fresh audience...

 

Let's just hope they don't sacrifice the Core Audience to gain the new young Emo-punks and Transformers fans...

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I've never seen 'Altered States' all the way through - just caught the ending more than once. The concept intregues me more than the actual movie.

 

'Contact' was quite enjoyable.

 

'Trek' is probably not the most philosophically approved series in Hollywood, either, since it puts forth the proposition that humanity has redeeming features. Even if we fall far short of our goals, we earnestly strive towards noble ends. I have no doubt that it is far easier for Hollywood to cut humanity down than to build it up - this is, after all, human nature.

 

It is far easier to belittle and tear down others than it is to aspire to greatness. The psychology of the playground plays out throughout life.

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I guess...I really didn't get that deep into Avatar to form any lasting opinions, either about the content or Cameron.

 

I just enjoyed the movie "in the moment" and for what it was: Popcorn fluff film about giant blue cat-monkeys and ancestral lands in danger due to The Human Corporation.

 

I did however want to punch out that assinine Colonel (kudos to his actor). The dude needs to loosen his flat top, it's cutting off the circulation to his brain.

 

From a sci fi geek standpoint, I got jazzed by the tech of those heli-fighters that the security force/marines employed.

 

Still won't invest in the DVD.

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Why does 'STAR WARS' appeal to the masses? It is the same here. The movie 'Avatar' will appeal to more audiences than say 'STAR TREK XI' BECAUSE the plot is weak and the story is simple.

 

How many of you Trekkers liked 'Altered States'? 'Contact'? 'Deep Impact'?

 

Well, yet again it's the same theme. Trekkers tend to THINK and like 'heady' movies. Most people are NOT trekkers....

I actually really liked 'Contact', I just saw it for the first time through netflix last night. I haven't seen 'Deep Impact' or 'Altered States' though.

 

I don't see how the plot in 'Avatar' was weak.

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I don't see how the plot in 'Avatar' was weak.

 

SciFi movies are sort of like steak, RARE, JUICY, WELL DONE, and OVER-DONE.... Avatar's plot would fall into the last category. It is smothered in mushrooms (or onions if you prefer but I do not), with its special effects but the story is highly predictable and therefore really dry.

 

Even with all of it's paradox and stupid coincidence, the Back To The Future Trilogy is far more entertaining and fun.

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P.S.

 

A couple other old but good SciFi's are 'BRAINSTORM' and 'DREAMSCAPE'. Both venture into the realm of the mind and have similar plots and obvious 'bad guys' but they hold their own with the technology they explore. The forementioned 'DEEP IMPACT' was in competition with the highly popular 'ARMEGEDDON'. Again, the latter appealed to the masses where as the former was more realistically presented.

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