To Boldly Go ...

[John the Ripper 0]

I haven't seen enough to really say, but from what I've seen of the Original Series, it's no wonder Star Trek has become the unstoppable juggernaut it is today. And thankfully they didn't screw up the new movie like they did with Star Wars (Lucas why would you do that to us?).

[will_marx 0]

I haven't seen enough to really say, but from what I've seen of the Original Series, it's no wonder Star Trek has become the unstoppable juggernaut it is today. And thankfully they didn't screw up the new movie like they did with Star Wars (Lucas why would you do that to us?).

 

Because he's got total control of SW canon, so he determines what is and isn't official, and how it goes, who plays whom, etc. Roddenberry was that way as well (which is why we never really saw the Federation and Saladin/Hermes-class ships from the Franz Joseph's SFTM) but Paramount pulled the plug on Roddenberry's control after the flop that was ST:TMP

[Kansas 0]

And, per the special features on Star Trek 11: writers Orci and Kurtzman (who are Trek fans, yes) actually looked to the three original Star Wars films as a sort of corner stone to update/base the new Trek action (such as the firefights) in the movie on -- to satisfy the so called modern movie audience.

 

You know, hearing the "pew ping pew pew ping" of the phasers on the Narada run and gun fight as opposed to the "stand still and fire the phaser that has a long phaser beam so the special effects can kick in"?

 

The Original Wars films were considered by the writers...not the three newest prequel films. Personally, I agree with that because the three originals are Star Wars to me, not the three newer films....I don't know what the three new Wars films are supposed to be.

 

Another thing, speaking of Lucas controlling Wars canon to within an inch of its life - the Wars books are considered canon. I still say Trek fiction books should be considered canon as well.

[John the Ripper 0]

I know how he did it, what I'm asking is WHY!?!?! No half sane director could look at a script like that and think it even came close to the original trilogy in terms of quality. Is it really that unreasonable to make the characters a little likable (We all already knew he was going to turn evil, but I've seen likable characters turn that evil before, it's not hard)? I'm mean he turned Darth Vader, arguably one of the greatest villians in movie history, into someone so freaking annoying and whiny I lost every ounce of respct I ever had for the character.

[John the Ripper 0]

And, per the special features on Star Trek 11: writers Orci and Kurtzman (who are Trek fans, yes) actually looked to the three original Star Wars films as a sort of corner stone to update/base the new Trek action (such as the firefights) in the movie on -- to satisfy the so called modern movie audience.

 

You know, hearing the "pew ping pew pew ping" of the phasers on the Narada run and gun fight as opposed to the "stand still and fire the phaser that has a long phaser beam so the special effects can kick in"?

 

The Original Wars films were considered by the writers...not the three newest prequel films. Personally, I agree with that because the three originals are Star Wars to me, not the three newer films....I don't know what the three new Wars films are supposed to be.

 

Another thing, speaking of Lucas controlling Wars canon to within an inch of its life - the Wars books are considered canon. I still say Trek fiction books should be considered canon as well.

 

 

I also knew that, and I als agree to that, I don't know what it is, but as far as I'm concerned those things are not canon Star Wars. But I guess they did one good thing for me (Depending on what your measure of "Good" is {Also this was after I learned what good movies are}), the moment I heard someone say the prequels were better because they had better effects, I felt my first desire to horribly maim someone.

[T'aral 0]

I don't know: I've heard it said that all the greatest villains of history started out as whiny teenagers. It's the whole 'me first' mentality that doesn't mature that does it.

 

OTOH: having a 9-year old snotnosed brat be a starfighter/whatever pilot ... that was annoying. And what they did to Qui-gon Jin ... I agree with something I saw on YouTube calling him the WORST Jedi ever! Almost every decision he made added to the disaster: bringing JarJar into the galaxy, bringing Skywalker to Coruscant, going after Maul without keeping Obi-Wan at his side ...

 

... Jin was ( bar none ) the WORST JEDI IN HISTORY!

[John the Ripper 0]

And what made it worse, is that he was played by Liam Neeson, one of my all time favorite actors (But then there was Christopher Lee who is ALWAYS awesome so that made up for it a bit). And now that I think of it, for the later two movies, Anikan was in his early 20s not a teenager, you'd think that 10 years with the Jedi would've matured him faster since they seem to have a mild version of Vulcan emotion traning.