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Wrath of khan -the next new startrek

HI -i just heard that the next Star trek 2009 Part 2-next movie is a remake of the wrath of khan----I hope not -If they rebooted<remake star trek > they can think of a better story line<if they killed vulcan,left some vulcans left,<<Spock -pon far?> killed spocks mom too ---they can think if a new script not a remake - if they do -they really killed star trek -lets send some ideas to jj adams-how about kirk,spock,mccoy on the new vulcan planet <can vulcans live on it> we need now -new worlds -new civilizations -not a remake...what is your ideas....

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Well, considering that before you can have a 'Wrath of Kahn' you have to have 'Space Seed', one would hope that this is unlikely.

 

A) In trying to discover a new Vulcan homeworld ( investigate new colony, establish a science outpost, etc ), the Enterprise runs afoul of the ( Tholians, Gorn, insert odd race here ... ). Kirk must discover that there's more to being a starfleet captain than shooting things.

 

:huh: A series of outposts are under attack ... let's say, Enterprise vs the Orions ( Gorns, Klingons, Tholians, Romulans of this timestream, new race, etc. : no hyper-cosmic all-powerful entities, please ).

 

C) The Enterprise is studying a nebula with a small race of beings inside it. Thing is: the entire nebula is alive, and the beings are the nebula's anti-bodies.

 

D) Sub-plot: Story begins with the Enterprise performing routine tasks under which Kirk chafes - itching to do something 'relevant'. By the end of the story, Kirk learns that 'relevant' things rarely happen without the loss of at least two red-shirted crewmen - leaving Kirk with a growing concern for his crew.

 

E) Take a variant from Diane Carey's 'Dreadnought': Enterprise is sent to chase down a renegade cruiser stolen by a faction of cadets, only to discover that the 'renegades' are patriots looking to save the Federation from the goals and ambitions of a renegade Admiral.

 

F) Run a 'Prime Directive' Senario where the Enterprise needs to rescue ( someone / something ) within the confines of the Prime Directive - which means not interfering or even revealing themselves to an undeveloped civilization. Complicate the matter ( if you wish ) by adding in a race ( Klingons, Romulans, Tholians, whomever ) with no such compunctions. Save the world from devestation while not significantly revealing yourselves - that should be a good trick.

 

 

 

That's enough work for fifteen to twenty minutes. G'night all.

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I'm so-so with TKar on this one, but it could also be just a 'Net rumor.

 

It'd be nice if re-Imagining doesn't necessarily mean script for script or scene for scene rehashing within this new Trek Universe.

 

Re-Imagined Battlestar Galactica?

 

If the new(er) BSG can still look for Earth just like in the first series, but surround the same main plot with all kinds of new stories then it'd be nice if the New TOS Star Trek did the same thing without the same exact stories over and over again word for word.

 

Even when Adama and crew met up with Admiral Cain and the Battleship Pegasus? The story was effectively reworked and updated within the first framework of the original episode, and I was definitely looking at new episodes, not a rehash.

 

I'm just saying there's a difference.

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Here it is, straight out of the horse's mouth:

 

Star Trek' Sequel Will Deal With 'Unpredictable Future'

J.J. Abrams and company are ready to continue in the 'alternate reality' the reboot created.

 

By Larry Carroll

 

When J.J. Abrams and his team first signed on to resurrect "Star Trek," Hollywood insiders questioned whether sci-fi fans still cared about the franchise. After a $76.5 million opening this past weekend the previous franchise record-holder was "First Contact" with a mere $30 million — you can consider "Trek" successfully rebooted. And as you read this, a whole new series of sequels are being planned for this new alternate reality.

 

"One of the obstacles that we found ourselves butting up against [when we took on the job] was this idea that we already knew the fate of the characters," writer/producer Alex Kurtzman told us of the newly established parallel "Trek" dimension, forever altered by the reckless actions of time-travelling villain Nero (Eric Bana). "If you're going to bring a whole new iteration of 'Trek' to life, you could never put them in any real danger — because you already know how they either died or lived. So, we felt like, all right, we have to find a way to make the future unpredictable, so whenever they're in these difficult, treacherous situations there truly is the risk of death."

 

Word already leaked more than a month ago that at least one "Trek" sequel is in the works, and the series' gatekeepers confirmed to us that such memorable characters as Khan Noonien Singh and Dr. Tolian Soran are among the many characters whose life courses may have been altered by the events of the new film.

 

"All the characters who existed in the universe or canon we grew up with are essentially still around in some capacity," Kurtzman explained. "But their lives have been altered, so they may again intersect with our crew."

 

"There's a deal in place with the writers and the actors," Abrams said recently of "Trek" sequel plans, explaining that all the key actors are under contract to return. "If people like this movie, and there's a demand for another one, we would be happy to work on it."

 

Well, they certainly did — and Kurtzman and his writing partner Roberto Orci (who also collaborated on the upcoming "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen") told us that their minds are already swimming with sequel possibilities.

 

"I don't think we ever need to talk about time travel again," Orci explained, saying that Leonard Nimoy and other "original universe" cast members will likely be unnecessary from here on out. "In fact, in the end of the movie, the device that allows time travel is destroyed. So we're stuck with this universe we're in now."

 

"Now we're in this new world," Kurtzman agreed. "And we're just gonna have to live through the unpredictable future."

 

As for ideas in that universe, Orci explained: "We've had a couple of really preliminary conversations, but we really didn't want to [get ahead of ourselves], because this isn't something we invented. We wanted to see what fans think of the first one; let's see what works, and what people think is the best in what we've done. And then we can take that into account when we think about the next movie."

 

Asked how soon they'd start writing the "Trek" sequel if the first one is announced as a hit the Monday after opening weekend, Orci said: "That day."

 

"I'm already going back and reading some of the books I've missed," he said of "Trek" tales and fan-fiction that have been written in past years, which could be reinterpreted for their new universe. "I'm trying to read every 'Star Trek' book I can get my hands on. We did that a lot for the first movie. ... I'm starting to re-immerse myself again in what's come before."

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Word already leaked more than a month ago that at least one "Trek" sequel is in the works, and the series' gatekeepers confirmed to us that such memorable characters as Khan Noonien Singh and Dr. Tolian Soran are among the many characters whose life courses may have been altered by the events of the new film.
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I don't see how this is cause to freak out about remaking Wrath of Khan. They just said that their lives were altered, not that they were going to actually make a movie about it.

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GOOD POINTS -everyone commented on-even though if the new movie -is a remake of wrath-i still would like them <The writers use their thinking caps on>I RESPECT everyones inpinions<Quite logical in fact -true<<Where did someone find JJ Adams remarks>>

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I just hope the writers talk to some SCIENTISTS before they write this movie...sheesh

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I just hope the writers talk to some SCIENTISTS before they write this movie...sheesh

 

I don't think getting the precise science correct is what's important. Maybe to some people, but not to most. When it comes to sci-fi, believability is the most important thing. Can you convince me that a drop of "red matter" can blow up an entire planet? Can you sell me a time travel-based plot that doesn't unravel the moment it's introduced?

 

After all, we are talking about entertainment here, not someone's doctoral thesis.

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After all, we are talking about entertainment here, not someone's doctoral thesis.

 

Thank goodness. If I want science in my entertainment, this is why I have the Discovery Channel on my cable. Isn't Trek labeled "Science Fiction" (key word fiction there) for a reason anyway?

 

Granted, some of that fiction has now become fact - medical scanners, the flip communicators that have now become cell phones, some of our devices (Blackberry, etc) sure look like data PADDS incarnate as they keep being developed.

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All consider for a moment what history has demonstrated as it pertains to science fiction and entertainment. I for one remember reading and listening to "Radio" broadcast that mentioned something that eventually became a reality,space travel for instance,lasers,radar,etc.,etc..

 

As stated it is "Entertainment",the science will follow soon enough as I am sure there may be an individual out there that will take the inspiration of science fiction and help make it become science reality....just my two cents. :huh:

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How is Khan's life changed yet? He hasn't waken up to have someone tell him about it.

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Well according to IMDB.com. IT WILL be a KHAN movie... Actor Nestor Campbell has already reportedly been cast as the infamous Kirk nemesis.

 

I'm with a lot of you on this however... I hope they're smart and do it like Space Seed... cuz this would be retarted if done any other way.

 

But, I feel that Abrams and Staff know better and that if we as fans can figure it out... Then the people with their finger on the pulse of the writers who happen to be fans as well, will undoubtedly set them straight.

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How is Khan's life changed yet? He hasn't waken up to have someone tell him about it.

 

One of the changes to this timeline is an advance in some technology, wich was reverse engineered from scans taken of the Narada after attacking the Kelvin. Therefor if ships had even a slightly higher top speed exploration would have increased. The Botany Bay could have been discovered earlier than before. And, it doesn't mean the Enterprise is the one to find her.

 

Yes, Space Seed would be a good one to work with, except for the limited area the story takes place in. But, the story would of course take on a much broader scope.

 

I was personally hoping to see "Arena" made into the next movie as the Gorn would make the perfect big movie creature feature.

Edited by T'Lyn

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Granted, some of that fiction has now become fact - medical scanners, the flip communicators that have now become cell phones, some of our devices (Blackberry, etc) sure look like data PADDS incarnate as they keep being developed.

 

HERE HERE!!!

 

Don't you just love it... won't be long before they finish up that anti-matter research and I even heard some kid at MIT transported an Apple across the room... freaky.

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HERE HERE!!!

 

Don't you just love it... won't be long before they finish up that anti-matter research and I even heard some kid at MIT transported an Apple across the room... freaky.

 

 

GANG!

 

I'm working as fast as I can with the limited resources at my disposal. But I must FIRST complete my work on the WARP DRIVE before I can invent the TRANSPORTER... LOL

 

I have been teased for years about my Treknoholic Addiction and in fact received a "D E E P" sigh from my brother when he learned of my recent resurgence into it. My family, I think, wished I'd get a Trekiatomy! LOL

 

As for TREK XI, I think this REBOOT is a wonderful thing and although I had not seen the movie in theatres (1st viewed in NOV 2009), I believe that audiences are going to flock to the sequel! I must say that by now I would think that one is already in the works and well past the planning stages so we might be a little late, however, I like TKAR's idea and believe the WE should indeed get together and send SOMETHING to JJ Abrams! Perhaps we can put together a POLL of differring ideas with fan-votes on each?

 

In my humble opinion, I believe that jumping straight into SPACE SEED or any other remakes of TOS episodes would be disappointing. I say keep them YOUNG while they are YOUNG (the new cast)! As I see it, TOS ran for three seasons and was the last three years of their five year tour. So why not explore the first two years of their adventure... The missions NOT seen on TV, events happening prior to that time.

 

I especial like T'Aral's idea here. Recently (last night), I watched AVATAR for the first time and what came immediately to my attention was the 'slight' skew in the scale of the NI'VI. Similarly, I imagine T'Aral's beings as being slightly smaller in scale than us. Sort of like SPACE HOBBITS! And perhaps they are completely unaware of their status as anti-bodies of the greater being (the nebula) and they believe it to be God? The Prime Directive could be explored here as well!

 

anyway, what do you guys think?

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Why Kahn? Why can't we re-imagine Cyrano Jones and Harcourt Fenton Mudd?

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I agree, Joy...

In that redoing something that has already been redone is, er, redundant.... LOL

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Why Kahn? Why can't we re-imagine Cyrano Jones and Harcourt Fenton Mudd?

 

I'd be up for Cyrano Jones if fanged were-Tribbles were also included in the new adaptation. ::eeeeeevil grin::

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Next movie should be a remake of Spock's Brain.

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That is TOO funny! The absolute WORSE episode! (oh, I hope you were joking) I am SO opinionated... :)

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Don't worry rosetto, you're not opinionated. It's a scientific fact that Spock's Brain was the worst episode.

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Don't worry rosetto, you're not opinionated. It's a scientific fact that Spock's Brain was the worst episode.

Yes, there are many memorable lines in Trek and for many different reasons.

 

Looking at TOS, there are the very funny lines: "I would advise youze to keep dialin' Oxmyx"

There are the catch phrases, "Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a... (insert other profession here)"

And there ae the lines that designate the episode itself is a joke, like, "Brain, Brain, what is Brain!?"

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Don't worry rosetto, you're not opinionated. It's a scientific fact that Spock's Brain was the worst episode.

Actually Leila, I AM opinionated... But I'm glad that someone shares mine on this... LOL

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Actually Leila, I AM opinionated... But I'm glad that someone shares mine on this... LOL

 

One of the worst,also the last show-where kirk changes mind to dr lester--i can,t remember which one..

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Hey Gang:

 

I just came up with this idea. I read a book about four years ago (yes, he actually reads) named "Time's Eye". I think the author was Bear but I'm not certain. Anyway, the storyline basically went like this. Let's pit Ginghus Khan with Alexander the Great! This concept could would very well with our new crew. They encounter a time rift that has split up timelines and the rift is expanding. Spock must figure out how to stop it while Kirk and McCoy (and others) are thrown in with Kahn & Alexander. Perhaps even include some of the other TOS species!

 

Whaddaya think? Should we write Abrams?

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