Calling those with good Trek knowledge!

[Owen J. North 0]

Okay so, here's the deal. I know I don't need it until I get out of the academy, but I had what I feel is a really cool idea for a character background while discussing ideas with another member on msn, and I'm starting to write it out so that, when the time comes, I'm ready to go... but I need some help fleshing out a few facts (esp. considering memory alpha isn't being much help).

 

I'm trying to discern how and when humans first made contact with an alien race. Who was the first race they encountered? How and when did it happen? What was the result? (Memory alpha has given me a bit of info on each of the first contacts: first contact with Vulcans, with Klingons, etc. but I can't seem to find any info regarding what happened first.)

 

Also, it seems to me that in such a discovery there would be controversy - namely, people objecting to the process of inter-mingling with alien races and things like that... is there any canon information to confirm or deny such an idea?

Edited May 24, 2009 by Owen J. North

[Rialia Sinclaire 0]

Okay so, here's the deal. I know I don't need it until I get out of the academy, but I had what I feel is a really cool idea for a character background while discussing ideas with another member on msn, and I'm starting to write it out so that, when the time comes, I'm ready to go... but I need some help fleshing out a few facts (esp. considering memory alpha isn't being much help).

 

I'm trying to discern how and when humans first made contact with an alien race. Who was the first race they encountered? How and when did it happen? What was the result? (Memory alpha has given me a bit of info on each of the first contacts: first contact with Vulcans, with Klingons, etc. but I can't seem to find any info regarding what happened first.)

 

Also, it seems to me that in such a discovery there would be controversy - namely, people objecting to the process of inter-mingling with alien races and things like that... is there any canon information to confirm or deny such an idea?

 

You're likely to find the information you need from looking up Star Trek: First Contact. The whole movie could essentially answer your first questions. Earth's first contact with the Vulcans coincided with the development of their first warp drive system at around 2060s. After that, ST: Enterprise could answer a lot of the questions about what happened next. The formation of a new world economy, and a United Earth, practically overnight. There were a few rough patches, I believe.

[Sorehl 0]

I'm trying to discern how and when humans first made contact with an alien race. Who was the first race they encountered? How and when did it happen? What was the result?

Trek has several references to unofficial first contacts, like the Ferengi at Roswell in 1947, and early alien visitation from the Olympian gods, but the generally recognized human first contact with alien species was between Zephram Cochrane and a Vulcan ship in Bozeman, Montana on April 5, 2063. By generally recognized, I mean within the Trek continuity itself, since First Contact Day was mentioned in VOY: Homestead as the celebration of this historic event. (Memory Alpha has an entry on this under the subject "First Contact Day".)

 

The result of this contact was generally favorable, although there are claims that humans begrudged the Vulcans for not sharing the entirety of their technology and possibly retarding their own progress. Ultimately, such tensions were largely resolved by the eventual formation of the United Federation of Planets almost a century later in 2161.

[Owen J. North 0]

Hmmm... alright, thanks Sorehl. What I'm thinking though is that, based on human nature, there must have been at least a small contingent of the human population who was against this, as humans have a tendency to fear even small changes, much less big ones like that. So, to those who feel they know the franchise well enough, the question I pose is: Would you consider it likely at all that a certain small group could have been so against the inter-mingling of species that they could have taken steps (i.e. moving to less populated parts of the planet, to avoid contact) to keep their way of life in tact?

Edited May 24, 2009 by Owen J. North

[Samantha_Kent 0]

I'm not sure that there's any specific canonical references to such a group but it doesn't seem unlikely. Trek has done stories regarding such intolerance, xenophobia, or resistance to change; cf. for example the group called "Terra Prime" in the Enterprise episode of the same name -- a terrorist group but the same general idea perhaps -- or the group called "The Circle" on Bajor in one of the early seasons of DS9 which wanted the Federation out of that alien world, or the Vulcan Isolationist Movement referenced in season 7 of TNG. So I think it's not unreasonable to suspect that other such groups, less public and violent, might have also existed. If that answers your question. :P

Edited May 25, 2009 by Samantha_Kent

[Owen J. North 0]

Yes Sam, that's pretty much EXACTLY what I was looking for. I didn't think there was, nor did I WANT there to be evidence of a group exactly like that... because I like to consider myself an original thinker, I was simply looking for evidence that not everybody takes to the Federation and inter-species mingling with the same sense of "All's good in the universe" which I could use as a precident to create my character's background.

 

As far as being less public and violent... that's exactly what I was going for. Basically imagine a group who feels the same way about space exploration and alien interaction that the Ahmish do about electricity and the like. No violent resistance, they just want no part of it.

[Aliana Lucindak 0]

Not everyone on earth is for the federation, though most are. If you are trying to find a way to have your character originate from that, there are several ways. He could have been raised in a family against the federation and contact with alien races for one thing. If you were simply looking for background information, then the others pretty much have it covered.

Edited May 25, 2009 by Aliana Lucindak

[Atragon9 0]

Yes Sam, that's pretty much EXACTLY what I was looking for. I didn't think there was, nor did I WANT there to be evidence of a group exactly like that... because I like to consider myself an original thinker, I was simply looking for evidence that not everybody takes to the Federation and inter-species mingling with the same sense of "All's good in the universe" which I could use as a precident to create my character's background.

 

As far as being less public and violent... that's exactly what I was going for. Basically imagine a group who feels the same way about space exploration and alien interaction that the Ahmish do about electricity and the like. No violent resistance, they just want no part of it.

Keep in mind that if your questions are part of developing a simming character, you may find resistance from some of the GMs to accept a new member of their crew who is anti-Federation and anti-space travel, eh?

 

Thanks.

 

PS - It's a waste of the Boards resources and people's time to post a question and bump it 12 minutes later. Why don't you just relax and let people respond when they have the opportunity to do so - especially during a holiday weekend - your question would not have been hard to notice.

[Owen J. North 0]

Nah, that's not quite what I was going for... but I think I've more or less figured it out by talking to the lovely Ms. Kent, lol

[V'Roy 0]

Nah, that's not quite what I was going for... but I think I've more or less figured it out by talking to the lovely Ms. Kent, lol

How can you tell if Ms. Kent is lovely? She's got no face!

 

 

Even if the GMs don't mind it, it would be hard to explain how someone who is anti-Federation and anti-space exploration would end up serving voluntarily in Starfleet.

[Owen J. North 0]

Atragon & V'Roy - I never said that my character was anti-Federation (infact, when that was insinuated, I flat out said that wasn't what I was going for)... I simply said that the presence of an Anti-Federation element is involved in my background story. All will be explained when I post my bio.

 

V'Roy - Lol, well I was referring to a more personality-based loveliness... but technically, there IS a Sims pic on her personel profile, so she has a face... just not in that window, lol.

 

Atragon - The reasoning behind that was that by the time it posted the thread, there had already been several posts to old threads befor then, and shoved it way down the page... and from the perspective of somebody with lots of experience watching how forums work, a lot of times people jump right into the higher threads and don't notice ones further down the page. (and honestly, what is it really wasting? It's not like there are a limited number of posts in a day that I'm eating up or anything... and if people didnt have time to notice it the first time,then really, where's the difference in time, either?)

Edited May 25, 2009 by Owen J. North

[Atragon9 0]

Atragon - The reasoning behind that was that by the time it posted the thread, there had already been several posts to old threads befor then, and shoved it way down the page... and from the perspective of somebody with lots of experience watching how forums work, a lot of times people jump right into the higher threads and don't notice ones further down the page. (and honestly, what is it really wasting? It's not like there are a limited number of posts in a day that I'm eating up or anything... and if people didnt have time to notice it the first time,then really, where's the difference in time, either?)

PM coming your way.

[V'Roy 0]

V'Roy - Lol, well I was referring to a more personality-based loveliness... but technically, there IS a Sims pic on her personel profile, so she has a face... just not in that window, lol.

 

I was wondering why green trutlenecks were so popular with simmers.

[Samantha_Kent 0]

He means in my bio. Though I think the Personal Photo is a better likeness... :P

[Chirakis 1]

To add to a plethora of information already provided, here is a link to the Wikipedia Star Trek Timeline, which might help.

[will_marx 0]

I was wondering why green trutlenecks were so popular with simmers.

 

For the same reason Mr Rogers wore cardigans and the Dread Pirate Roberts wears a mask: They're terribly comfortable.

[Leila Kalomi 0]

Seeing as this article is about looking for Trek knowledge for bio purposes, and that Owen has already been answered, I'll take the liberty of asking: Does anyone know canon or not where the Yonada landed? Was it someplace in the Daran system?

[will_marx 0]

Seeing as this article is about looking for Trek knowledge for bio purposes, and that Owen has already been answered, I'll take the liberty of asking: Does anyone know canon or not where the Yonada landed? Was it someplace in the Daran system?

 

I recall reading one of the Lost Years Novels mentioned that the Fabrini did indeed end their multi-generational trek in the stars, and McCoy did return to them...albeit briefly. But I cannot recall if they landed in the Daran system.

[Leila Kalomi 0]

Mmmmmhhmm, it seems very hard to find any information on the Fabrini.

 

EDIT: Oh, I just found a Memory Beta article saying they landed on Lorina/Daran IV in 2270. Since it's from a book though, it's by no means canon...

Edited May 26, 2009 by Leila Kalomi

[Owen J. North 0]

For the same reason Mr Rogers wore cardigans and the Dread Pirate Roberts wears a mask: They're terribly comfortable.

 

LMAO. I love a well placed Roberts reference. Thanks for the laugh, Will.

[TKAR 0]

Just keep on working on that idea ,don,t worry about it now -its hard to figure out your character,s history -race etc ,when there are different facts from one series or another --look at the spock character or kirk -one story line kirk had one brother with one son then another story kirk had a few nephews,spock had no briothers but we found in one of the movies spock had a half brother-JAMES R KIRK to James T kirk....aaaaaaaa I,m still working on my backround story too.