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FredM

First Trek Movie Stills!

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Hey there,

 

Today marked the start of the marketing campaign for the upcoming Star Trek movie coming out in May 2009. In addition to the below, there are reports the movie's full trailer may be attached to the upcoming James Bond movie due to be released next month.

 

As you look thru some of the links and the like, one interesting note: 75% of all FX shots are complete and the movie is actually on schedule to be "locked" by the middle of December.

 

Click on each image for the article relating to it, some giving some clues about what you are actually looking at.

 

Last warning....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Crew...

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The Villian...Nero

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Kirk...And A Pod.

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Don't Tick Off Spock...

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Oh Yes, That's The Bridge...

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The U.S.S. Kelvin (pre-dates the Enterprise, see article for a link with more details)

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Thanks for the post Fred.

 

- Okay, the still shot of the crew on the bridge? The actor playing Kirk (blanking on the name) has that Kirk sitting in the command chair and chewing over a problem pose down cold.

 

- And, I'll go on record and say that the new bridge rocks out, and the design looks clean and mean; I like the compromise between the "Blue color" streamline console in the background and the white/silver Old School that I can spot on the console stand that Uhuru is at. And, I think it is a good point that the new Enterprise bridge look isn't the "cold and dirty" camera and set look of the new Battlestar Galactica?

 

- I like the crew, they look good together.

 

- Doctor McCoy's Karl Urban is a hottie.

 

- The Blue, Red, and Yellow Old School uniforms look spectacular! Yeah baby!

 

- Did I mention Urban is a hottie?

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Wow, they are all so... young, and the bridge is all wrong! And I just have to say... Spock looks reaaallly weird...

~Ali

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Ok...I am reluctantly intrigued.

 

On a separate thought, what effect are these pictures and the movie going to have on the crew and look of the Hood?

 

Is the new command color Black? :P

Are the miniskirts a touch longer than in TOS or is it just me?

Are Captains no longer required to wear a girdle?

Will the color scheme and big buttons be retrofitted?

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Meh, don't like the bridge...Give me the original jujubee-buttoned set any day.

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The bridge just doesnt look like the ancestor of other Federation Starships......are we looking at a simulator perhaps or worst revisionist history?

 

Precip

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Ok...I am reluctantly intrigued.

 

On a separate thought, what effect are these pictures and the movie going to have on the crew and look of the Hood?

 

Is the new command color Black? :P

Are the miniskirts a touch longer than in TOS or is it just me?

Are Captains no longer required to wear a girdle?

Will the color scheme and big buttons be retrofitted?

The tunic/miniskirts are longer! Yay! That should be more comfortable.

~Ali

Edited by Aliana Lucindak

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The bridge just doesnt look like the ancestor of other Federation Starships......are we looking at a simulator perhaps or worst revisionist history?

 

Agreed there -- although, interestingly, it does look like a descendant of NX-01 (and, a bit of Battlestar Galactica's Pegasus).

 

We have to be looking at revisionist history, though. In the original canon, Cpt Pike's command of USS Enterprise was 13 years earlier than Kirk's. At that time, Spock was already chief science officer and third in command, not in the academy. Spock is way too young. That, and, if we're focusing on the early life of Kirk, everyone else is too old. Kirk was supposed to have made captain at a very young age, but he shouldn't be a cadet at the same time his ensigns are cadets. (I'm not sure about the canon ages, but he *may* have been at the same time as Scotty or McCoy).

 

If we want consistency, the uniforms *should* look a bit more like the ones in "The Cage" (which would have been taking place within a few years of the time Kirk was coming out of the academy).

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If we want consistency, the uniforms *should* look a bit more like the ones in "The Cage" (which would have been taking place within a few years of the time Kirk was coming out of the academy).

 

I *really* don't think the whole consistency thing is a concern with this new Trek film.

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I *really* don't think the whole consistency thing is a concern with this new Trek film.

 

I've noticed that too. Especially with the markings on the Kelvin.

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Hey there,

 

To answer some questions people posted from what I have read online....

  • Consistency actually is a critical part. The film will show the Enterprise under the command of Christopher Pike and later under the command of James T. Kirk.
     
  • Supposedly the black uniform Kirk is wearing is on purposes and there is a back story to it. Supposedly some fight has happened involving Kirk and Sulu right before that scene.
     
  • If you actually look at Leonard Nimoy in The Cage and them compare him to Quinto, the similarity (to me anyway) is striking.
     
  • The film does update the technology a bit. I mean, in reality though, that does kind of become required. Heck, TOS held that floppy disks were being used with TNG using modern day thumb USB drives. So some update is almost required if you are going to believe this is all happening in the 23rd Century.
     
  • One major thing that has been said by JJ Abrams from the beginning is this (in addition to the two writers): The film uses what is specifically canon and some book material as a guideline for the timeline. However, and this statement is true, there is a lot of stuff that people have "filled in the blanks" with regarding TOS that really doesn't have any basis. Case and point, we know Kirk served aboard the Republic...but we don't know where else he served. We don't know exactly where Scotty served, minus him having been on "half a dozen ships from cruisers to starships," etc.
     
  • The film does involve time travel, with 24th Century Romulan Nero going back in time and a 24th Century Spock following. So what we're seeing is, while an "update," rumor holds it is the standard timeline.

Also, the one bridge shot, the "display" you see behind Kirk is supposedly a star chart of the "known universe" that is based on the "more accepted" layout of the Trek universe.

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Hey there,

 

Some additional photos that came out today....

 

Full view of the U.S.S. Kelvin (Article contains something of a general summary of the film)

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Let's just hope they don't push back its release time again. :P

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To me at first glance, the design of the Kelvin has roots back in the black and white Starfleet: Technical Manual (can't recall the author) book/schematic manual that was out in the mid to late 1980's, containing information and schematics and diagrams and uniforms based on the Original Trek (and yeah, pre-Internet resource material can still rock out :-P)

 

I *think* a couple of starship designs within the manual were along the same concept idea as the Kelvin.

 

That's pretty cool, keeping the boxy yet streamlined TOS remake designs (at least the Kelvin) somewhat original "canon". Check out the saucer and the bridge sectional; totally reminds you of the lines on the original Enterprise ship, with the hull plating going toward the look of the TV Show Enterprise hull.

 

BTW, that pic of the pod and Kirk? Yeah, it figures he'd be in the middle of a snow bank or something with a downed pod or something. :-D

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I actually... really want that bridge. I think as long as they don't completely ENT-it... which they don't look like they have... (notice the chair, it's just an update of the TOS one)...

 

The production value on this looks... omg...

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Wow, they are all so... young, and the bridge is all wrong! And I just have to say... Spock looks reaaallly weird...

~Ali

 

Spock actually doesn't bother me as much as most of the other cast, but yeah, the Bridge... wtf.

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Spock actually doesn't bother me as much as most of the other cast, but yeah, the Bridge... wtf.

 

Pardon me as I klep your post Commander Rock!

 

The one cast member I assume is playing Chekov to the front left? That is my mental block cast member and I have to adjust my Chekov perceptions. The curly hair? Eh. I'm cool with the others. Urban. Hot.

 

But again, this is a 2009 film, and our modern times translate over to the actors (and bridge) just like in all the past Treks:

 

The New Cast:

 

Are just as pretty/buff/modern actor/cool looking as the original 60's cast. It all depends on the decade.

 

- Shatners Mid West American Boy Kirk (sorry for the non PC wording) look was the ideal leading man at the time.

 

- Nichelle Nichols was considered a good looking modern woman of color (again, pardon me for the wording there, and not to give any politically correct types a heartattack) to be cast as Uhuru.

 

- Leonard Nimoy had pointed ears but he could be considered attractive with his clean cut angular features. And they painted him with green tinged makeup. But that's beside the point. :-P

 

- DeForest Kelley and James Doohan were older (Scottish and Southerner) men, in their forties. Both had rugged to craggy features, and could be considered handsome rather then cute.

 

So, when you compare the new cast to the old '60's cast ... you just can't. Each movie and Trek TV show goes for the cast that looks good for the current times.

 

The New Bridge:

 

- Is New. Each and every Trek bridge was new at the time, and all of them did not look alike, right? And I'm with NDak, I really like the new bridge.

 

- The Original 60's bridge had a modern 60's look going on. Flat yet bold colors, from the black of Kirks chair cushion to the red of the helm and nav console on the side boards. The chairs were very plastic looking.

 

- The TNG bridge when the show premiered in the late 80's. Oh. My. God. Gag me with a spoon. All they needed was someone walking aound in parachute pants. Total 1980's. That biege/tan carpet and bridge design? Yep. 80's Luxury. We had a recliner chair that color, and the material matched the TNG bridge!

 

I can't go wtf or anything over the 2009 film bridge because it looks ..... modern. ::shrugs:: I dunno, I just wasn't full on expecting the original original look. I like the hybrid ENT/Movie TNG and TOS (silver white) console look of it. Nice compromise. And I like the cast = they look sharp man.

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To me at first glance, the design of the Kelvin has roots back in the black and white Starfleet: Technical Manual (can't recall the author) book/schematic manual that was out in the mid to late 1980's, containing information and schematics and diagrams and uniforms based on the Original Trek (and yeah, pre-Internet resource material can still rock out :-P)

 

I *think* a couple of starship designs within the manual were along the same concept idea as the Kelvin.

 

Your might be talking about the Jackill's Star Fleet Reference Manual written by Eric Kristiansen. I have all 3 of em but they do not include Uniform stuff. Just Ship Data and Sketches. From the Workbee pods and torpedo's up to Dry Docks and Stations. Not an Official Paramount thing so that's why there aren't many out there.

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The New Bridge:

First thought was Gattaca...everything looks so sterile. Works for SB, but I would expect less ascetics and more functionality on the bridge.

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The one cast member I assume is playing Chekov to the front left? That is my mental block cast member and I have to adjust my Chekov perceptions. The curly hair? Eh. I'm cool with the others. Urban. Hot.

thats Chekov... I am imagining Walter Koenig w/ curly hair O.O

you are right though, the others are pretty good looking, especially Zoe Saldana.

~Ali

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Your might be talking about the Jackill's Star Fleet Reference Manual written by Eric Kristiansen. I have all 3 of em but they do not include Uniform stuff. Just Ship Data and Sketches. From the Workbee pods and torpedo's up to Dry Docks and Stations. Not an Official Paramount thing so that's why there aren't many out there.

 

Found it! Starfleet Technical Manual by Franz Joseph. This version includes uniforms, ship names, schematics, the works.

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Hey there,

 

Some general thoughts again. :P

 

First, McCoy and Scotty were older by the time we saw them in TOS. One thing that never was established all that clearly is exactly "when" that crew got aboard the NCC-1701. I mean, even Chekov, it has always been implied that he "arrived fresh from the Academy" in Season 2. However, I don't believe there actually is anything to support the statement. The character could easily have been working the night shift during Season 1. We know general "ages" of the characters, but that is it.

 

As far as the design of the U.S.S. Kelvin goes, I'll tell you honestly...it freaks me out. Why? The design is 95% what the original design of the Reaent was back in 1995 (seriously, I am not joking and have the graphics to prove it). Overall, the film is going to have to update the technology. Honestly, I don't have a problem with seeing an NCC-1701 that has modern CGI. No the hull might not be "smooth" by design, but when you think about it that seems to have been due more to 1960s technology vs original concept. No other ship seen in the entire franchise has had a "smooth hull," so I think we're going to have to give them some room there. As far as the bridge goes, again, they have to update it. This is supposed to look like something occurring 200 years from now, you don't want the audience going "They are still using bright orange buttons?!?" when we'll probably be using completely touchscreen keyboards / interfaces within 20 years or less.

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One thing that never was established all that clearly is exactly "when" that crew got aboard the NCC-1701. I mean, even Chekov, it has always been implied that he "arrived fresh from the Academy" in Season 2. However, I don't believe there actually is anything to support the statement. The character could easily have been working the night shift during Season 1.

Canonically, it is supportable that Chekov was aboard at some point during the first season of TOS, even if he was not a member of the bridge crew - remember that Khan "never forget a face". Space Seed was a (late) season one episode. So a conscious continuity oversight (acknowledged by Koenig and Nicholas Meyers) later helps continuity.

 

As far as the bridge goes, again, they have to update it. This is supposed to look like something occurring 200 years from now, you don't want the audience going "They are still using bright orange buttons?!?" when we'll probably be using completely touchscreen keyboards / interfaces within 20 years or less.

No more than Starfleet still not using seat belts. If they play with the continuity of the original Enterprise, they're going to be running contrary to the long Trek tradition of incorporating the way things were - ala the smooth and chunky Klingon foreheads. I mean, we're okay with velour uniforms but we'd have a problem with orange buttons?

 

I remember an old Pocket Book that posited that complex warp fields were detrimental to some technology, so they had to use "macro" electronics and analog technology. Interestingly, this is what the reimagined Battlestar Galactica did, eschewing higher tech solutions to avoid Cylon tampering. So they have handheld phones and unnetworked computers.

 

One of Star Trek: Enterprise's failings was a lack of respect for series continuity. Nemesis made some of the same mistakes. This doesn't mean rigid adherance is required, but I hope Mr. Abrams realizes this isn't a series that needs reimagining. (I've seen a CGI extension of NCC-1701 that shows practically Art Deco nacelles - I hope that's a fake.) There's something to be said for breathing new life to draw in the young fans, but if it costs you a massive and loyal fan base, what's the point of using the brand name?

 

I'm still willing to see what they come up with, but will it be more like DS9's healthy respect in "Trials and Tribblations" or the travesties that were the Star Wars prequels?

 

P.S. Quintos is perfect casting.

 

P.P.S. I'm unqualified to debate Mr. Urban's hotness.

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One of Star Trek: Enterprise's failings was a lack of respect for series continuity. Nemesis made some of the same mistakes. This doesn't mean rigid adherance is required, but I hope Mr. Abrams realizes this isn't a series that needs reimagining. (I've seen a CGI extension of NCC-1701 that shows practically Art Deco nacelles - I hope that's a fake.) There's something to be said for breathing new life to draw in the young fans, but if it costs you a massive and loyal fan base, what's the point of using the brand name?

 

This has been the main point that I've ended up coming back too every time I discuss this with people. What I want when I go see this movie is to see something which displays respect for the franchise that I love, something which has a long history and a loyal fanbase. I understand that perhaps its going to require updates to make it a legitimate business proposition on the big screen -- but, as you say, if they sacrifice the integrity of the franchise in order to get that business, then they are doing nothing more nor less than taking advantage of us and using our loyalty to milk a brand name to dry udders.

 

Before you all jump on my back, let me emphasize that I am keeping a completely open mind until I have seen the film. I have no evidence in either direction regarding canon accuracy and I will not deny that the people and the sets are very pretty, even if the bridge does look like a bit like a lighting designer had a spaz. I really have no expectations either way; I'm just commenting that I really hope Abrams and company have the sense to respect the old members of their audience as well as the new.

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Having read the Entertainment Weekly article today with quotes like:

"Transforming a defunct old property into a cool 21st-century event flick may seem like business as usual for Hollywood, but Trek presented... a much heftier challenge: how to make this hunk of retro sci-fi cheese meaningful as mainstream entertainment, as relevant pop, as big business."

 

...does not make the Vulcan heart soar.

 

Nor does the assessment: "...the Trek brand has devolved into a near-irrelevant cultural joke, likely to inspire giggles and unprintable curses from even its most ardent supporters."

 

Abrams' quotes are even worse:

"I don't think people even understand what Star Trek means anymore."

"All my friends liked Star Trek, I preferred a more visceral experience."

 

Most telling is that the article cites the abysmal performance of Nemesis and the Enterprise series as need for a reboot, but ignores the fact that their poor performance was in part due to ignoring continuity and upsetting the fan base. I'm not even interested in owning either one - reinforcing things with my "dollar votes".

 

We'll see what they do with it, but I'm not particularly interested in seeing Clone Wars added to the Trek canon. I hope they prove me wrong.

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