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Marika Reed

How willing...?

How willing would you be to watch a completely new Star Trek series, that is hypothetically, that the "new captain kirk movie with new actors" ( :) ) turns out to be good enough to get the franchise?

 

I know this is a strange question, but I've seen such despisment of Enterprise even when they did not watch it enough (or at all)

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If only to hold me over until the second half of BSG airs.

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I would watch it out of curiosity.

~Ali

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Are you talking about New Horizons being convincingly good enough to get corporate sponsorship?

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If you mean watching new episodes of TOS coming out as a new series... I already am watching that. The Fan Series; Star Trek: New Voyages (or as it's called now Phase II) is exactly that, with new people playing Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and the rest. It hasn't been bad and in fact the guy who produces it and plays Kirk in it has a bit part in the new movie.

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Actually, I meant a completely new series, set after Voyager

 

You see, I would be very interested in a post-TNG.DS9.VOY series but I think the reason that ENT and the new movie were made instead of a more futuristic series because the technology after VOY is going to be ridiculously advanced that anyone who attempts it is probably going to end up looking pretty silly.

 

My suggestion to the Star Trek creative staff, if they haven't yet, is to go over and have a talk with Steve Jobs and the rest of the Apple team and get some ideas.

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You see, I would be very interested in a post-TNG.DS9.VOY series but I think the reason that ENT and the new movie were made instead of a more futuristic series because the technology after VOY is going to be ridiculously advanced that anyone who attempts it is probably going to end up looking pretty silly.

 

My suggestion to the Star Trek creative staff, if they haven't yet, is to go over and have a talk with Steve Jobs and the rest of the Apple team and get some ideas.

 

 

Star Trek is starting to turn into steam punk because it's ideas about how technology will work and interact with people is becoming so outdated. We have now in this early part of the 21st century most of the technology presented as state of the art 23rd.

 

A new series would need to exist in a future where the Federation has made an alliance with the Borg or part of the Borg which has returned to the way they were first portrayed (they only assimilated technology and grew their own young to fill the drone ranks). Externally applied (and removable) Borg parts would then be used to mentally control most systems. Slipstream and transwarp drives would then be used to open up the whole galaxy for exploration. Voyager races then could be re-explored while not leaving old ones behind and the Dominion's full force could become a real threat as well as probably an enemy from outside the Milky Way.

 

And I don't think such a setup would overly shrink the galaxy. Space is still REALLY big. I think TOS originally had a large part of the galaxy reachable but it understood that didn't mean every star and planet between here and there had been explored. Man had circumnavigated the globe well before they had even a clue what most of the continental interiors of the Americas or Africa had in store. Likewise we could reach from one edge of the galaxy to the next in a years travel and bypass countless stars and planets. If we could step to any planet we wanted as easy as stepping out of our front door it would still take several lifetimes to explore the galaxy.

 

Actually, a set up like this would make for a good social commentary on globalization.

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Star Trek is starting to turn into steam punk because it's ideas about how technology will work and interact with people is becoming so outdated. We have now in this early part of the 21st century most of the technology presented as state of the art 23rd.

 

I still think that if Gene Roddenberry would have had a chat with inventors like the soon-to-be apple company instead of scientists and people who who only knew what there is already to know, (and I don't mean that scientists only know what there is already to know) , then ST:TOS might have been the first TV series to feature major soon-to-be technologies, such as an iPadd Pro and the iTricorder 3G...

 

Therefore, any new ST series that would occur post-VOY would have to have technology that was so complex that you couldn't see even see it, and any pre-VOY would be dull in comparison, which even Rick Berman knew, seeing as ENT had some technology way beyond TOS even if its still behind the current day technology.

 

I also have a feeling that a recreated TOS film might round off the franchise and thus end it nicely, but that won't happen.

I know this is a strange question, but I've seen such despisment of Enterprise even when they did not watch it enough (or at all)

 

You're right. I haven't seen much of ENT and I find it hard to watch. Most of my complaints against it are from the pilot. Coming from TNG as my favorite and first ST series, when I turned on ENT for the first time, it did not feel like Star Trek. TOS-TNG-DS9-VOY, if you turn on any episode of those from any timeframe and watch it for a moment, it will feel like ST. Because of that, even though I know ENT is better than a lot of stuff on TV and that being different isn't bad, I can't really enjoy an episode of ENT. Sorry. :)

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Actually, Star Trek was the first to have cell phones and bluetooths. iTunes was inspired by a Next Gen episode.

 

Maybe Apple should watch more Borg episodes for a better world domination plan.

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Actually, Star Trek was the first to have cell phones and bluetooths. iTunes was inspired by a Next Gen episode.

 

Maybe Apple should watch more Borg episodes for a better world domination plan.

 

Well, I just wish we had better computers in TOS so the computers in ENT would be justified.

 

Anyway, Apple is to stylish for Borg technology, and for the phones in bluetooth in Star Trek. Though I'm pretty sure you make your communicator play music if you want it to. Still, since iPhone 3G seems to surpass the technology of TNG-DS9-VOY PADDS in that it can act as a remote for something else and has a touch screen which is not just a permanent format like the LCAR system, but actually changes. Seeing as any Mac screen looks more futuristic than anything from Star Trek even after we had reached the computer era, they could have done with a good talking to.

 

Star Trek: "We have this idea for a button that clips unto your uniform and when you press it you ask for a person who also has a communicator and you can talk to them. It also makes a cool chirpy noise."

 

I can definitely see a good computer company improving that idea. Why is there no way to transmit video through a communicator in all of TNG?

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I can definitely see a good computer company improving that idea. Why is there no way to transmit video through a communicator in all of TNG?

 

Because the floating hologram it would produce exceeds the normal fx budget of a single episode.

 

Many of these limitations could be attributed to just not needing all the bells and whistles. Simpler is also better in extreme conditions. The usefulness of a touchscreen display is questionable when the power goes out and all you want to do is open the escape hatch. This is why American aircraft carriers still use a plain board and little models to keep track of their aircraft.

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Because the floating hologram it would produce exceeds the normal fx budget of a single episode.

 

Many of these limitations could be attributed to just not needing all the bells and whistles. Simpler is also better in extreme conditions. The usefulness of a touchscreen display is questionable when the power goes out and all you want to do is open the escape hatch. This is why American aircraft carriers still use a plain board and little models to keep track of their aircraft.

 

Yeah, I understand that Trek was really supposed to be a social commentary in metaphor but, just like in Galaxy Quest, you just have to question the reasonability of some of the technology on the Enterprise. I just think that in the episode where the bridge crew views the away teams actions through Geordi's visor the technology is kind of lame, there must have been a camera the size of a communicator invented by the 24th century. Just like the amount of time the holodecks go wrong. I would work on the holodeck software after about the third time. When you get down to it, its just plot devices, but I can't help but wish that some of the technology was more thought it out, seeing as Trek is one of the only sci-fi's that actually explains its technology.

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it would be interesting to see -how bones/spock/mccoy and the rest with new adventures-like dr who we won,t let it die-

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I would watch it to give it a chance, but if it sucked I would drop it like a bad habit.

 

(So says the drinker and smoker)

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Yes i willing to see the new movie -like DR WHO --different actors played the same role -it will bee interesting to see nimoy as Spock and seeing thee new spock too --give it a chance

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Okay, so I'm an oldie. I watched TOS in black & white, 'cause in the late 60's, color TV set were too expensive. Plus, my dad was bringing home designs from the Apollo program, for stuff he was helping put up there. When Star Trek came on, he watched it. He read SciFi books, and he was as upset as I've ever seen him when TOS was cancelled, after 3 seasons!!!

 

Since he designed cameras, he was always thinking about the scanners and sensors on TOS. He new good science fiction when he saw it, he read all he could. Now, he didn't really think TOS was that good when it came to SciFi, but, heck, it was better than nothing.

 

So whatever comes out, let's just hope the writers have read more Asimov, Hubbard, and more of their era. Not the super-duper-not-scientifically-based stuff with great big hooters on the star-cover....

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