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Nyota

Which crew 's hands would you put your life in?

Which crew 's hands would you put your life in?    2 members have voted

  1. 1. If all the Star Trek crews had identical technology an knowledge, who would you choose?

    • Jonathan Archer's Crew
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(Please ignore poll for some reason the message submitted before I was done, and I am unble to edit it)

 

If all the crews in Star Trek had identical ships that they knew every system of, warp core to hypospray, would you choose...?

 

Enterprise NX-O1's crew

CO: Jonathan Archer

MXO/Science: T'Pol

CMO: Phox

CENG: Charles "Trip" Tucker

TAC/CSEC: Malcolm Reed

Communications: Hoshi Sato

HELM: Travis Mayweather

 

Enterprise NCC-1701's crew

CO: James Tiberius Kirk

MXO/Science: Spock

CMO: Leonard H. McCoy

CENG: Montgomery Scott

HELM: Hokaru Sulu

Navigation: Pavel Chekov

Communications: Nyota Uhura

CSEC: Red shirt du jour

 

Enterprise-D's crew (forgive me, I dont watch much of this one)

CO: Jean-Luc Picard

MXO: William Thomas Riker

CMO: Beverly Crusher

CENG: Gerodi LaForge

Science/Operations: Data/ Worf

CSEC: Worf

Transporter Chief: Miles O'Brien

 

 

Defiant's Crew

CO: Benjamin Sisko

MXO/CSEC/TAC: Worf

CENG: Miles O'Brien

CMO: Julian Bashir

HELM/CSCI: Jhadzia Dax OR OPS: Ezri Dax and Helm: Nog

 

Voyager's Crew

CO: Kathrine Janeway

MXO: Chakotay

CENG: B'Elanna Torres

CMO: The Doctor

OPS: Harry Kim

HELM: Thomas Paris

 

If I were to choose, it would be... because...

 

 

This will be helpful to me, so please answer.

Edited by Nyota

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If all ships were equal, and all crews equally trained, would it make a difference?

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If all ships were equal, and all crews equally trained, would it make a difference?

 

Do you really think Kirk and Picard think in the same way? Everyone has a different way of thinking, even if they are only characters. I mean, who invented as first stable force field or good phase cannons with little or without outside help, Reed or Worf? Do you think Tuvok would think in the same way as the Klingon Worf? Or Harry Kim the same way as Data? Don't you think Kirk is faster to pull the trigger than Janeway? Does Miles O'Brien spend his free time reading technical journals like Scotty?

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Interesting question. The answer would depend on WHY they had my life in their hands. If I'm part of the crew or part of a mission I'd have to say either TOS or TNG. All the others my death would probably lead to some hard learned lesson about life or something. If I was just random crew then TNG, I think they killed off less Redshirts. If I'm the focus of the mission then TOS all the way. It's kinda hard to answer this though.

 

Perhaps a better way to look at it, "if you're the evil alien enemy, who would you least like having to face off with." Voyager would be the hardest to predict their moves, DS9 has the most combat experience, and TOS is like playing RISK with someone who always roles 6. Luck is a pain to counter so I'd have to give the nod to TOS again.

 

And finally, whether I lived or died I think I'd rather hang out with the TOS folks as well, with Enterprise second.

 

So, answer seems to be Kirk and crew.

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All the others my death would probably lead to some hard learned lesson about life or something.

 

ROFL! Yeah, I know what you mean. "We're sorry that Kith died, but at least we learned what it means to respect other cultures. Let's move on."

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First Choice: Kirk and crew.

 

They weren't afraid to get their hands dirty, nor were they constrained as much as the later crews with regard to the Prime Directive (ie, they ignored it). If my life was in their hands? Go for it guys.

 

Second Choice: Archer and crew.

 

Same reasons as above, with the exception of no Prime Directive as it did not exist during the time period. This crew was very much on the frontier, and cowboy-ed up every week. Save me guys.

 

Runner Up: Janeway and crew.

 

These people were trapped 70 light years from Earth, traveling to get back. They were forced to think outside the box being on their own and away from Fleet Command. And, at times, they needed to make the tough decisions to survive. Save me, go for it.

 

Not going to happen: Sisko and Picard and crews (love these guys, but not my personal thing).

 

These guys were very much more in the diplomatic "lets discuss this" area, the Dominon War of DS9 aside. I saw too many instances of by the book with regard to TNG as well; even when Picard and his posse went rogue in "Insurrection" (my personal favorite out of the TNG movies) to help Anij and her people, it lacked the flair of say a Kirk operation or an Archer operation. And, Sisko and crew were usually too constrained with the wormhole, the prophets, and the rebel and rebuilding baggage overflow from the Bajorans. Even the Dominion War was tame, dare I say? (the only token shocking moments I can recall as examples were Nog losing a leg - which was well done and believable - Jake experiencing the war up close and personal with a Fleet Marine who dies, and Martok losing an eye and foregoing a replacement).

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If all ships were equal, and all crews equally trained, would it make a difference?

 

And I tend to agree with this statement wholeheartedly, regardless of my above rundown. All the crews are well trained, and no less capable to pull off a rescue operation.

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And I tend to agree with this statement wholeheartedly, regardless of my above rundown. All the crews are well trained, and no less capable to pull off a rescue operation.

 

Be that as it may, none of the other crews would be able to do it with the flair of Kirk and gang. Not only do we have Spock and McCoy arguing over emotions and blood coloring ("You green-blooded, inhuman..."), Scotty complaining about his "wee bairns not handling the stress" and still able to pull off a miracle with the engines, but we also have Kirk's patented "Charm the Female leader"™®© and bending the Prime Directive into a pretzel to pull it off.

 

So yeah, my vote goes for the TOS gang

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I said if every one had identical ships and know how to use them. I did not mean that they all went to the same Academy year.

 

For all missions, (dipomatic, first contact, battle, supplies, science ect.) it would be Jonathan Archer's crew. Jonathan Archer has that trustworthy air about him that spreads off to people he has barely ment, causing even them to trust him, even slightly. He always remains calm, and collected, well, most of the time. He may not be the itimidating type like Kirk or Sisko, but he knows when to kick some. To save a member of his crew, unless he's down on the primitive planet locked in a cell with them, he will do everything in his power to explore every option before allowing the crewmember to die.

Subcommander T'Pol is basically the female boss, she makes up for the slight lack of indimidation of Archer. Her science skills may seem a bit low, but its only her century. If she ws in Voyager's time, she'll be as good as Seven of Nine. Unlike other Vulcans, she can allow herself to seem emotional as a distraction, and lie. She is also becoming more human by the minute, allowing her to understand the humans shes working with, and perhaps she can find the percise balance.

Malcolm Reed is the best tatical officer in all of Star Trek. He may be a bit stuffy, but thats what makes him good at his job. He does not allow disdvantages get him down. In fact, when T'Pol was captured by a man threatening to blow her brains out if Reed came any closer, Reed stunned T'Pol, in case if he shot the offending man, the muscels would spasm and T'Pol would be dead anyway. Afterwards, he used the moment of surprise of shooting his own to stun the man. Best tatcial stratagey that I've seen the other Tatical Officers not think about. Reed also trusts the element of surprise throughly, and he was the man to first create a stable force field with little outside help (In a hurry too), and created phase cannons to put on the NX-01, again, he designed them without much outside help. He even risked two decks being blown out to maximize the power. And geez, he could beat the snot out of an MACO senior officer! He is also completely willng to die for the ship, even argued against Jonathan Archer for not just deatching the hull plate Reed was pinned to and leaving the minefield. He even released all the air out of his space suit to commit suicide so Jonathan would take the Enterprise out of harms way. Archer still found away to get him off though alive and well, thankfully.

Chief Engineer Charles Trip Tucker is great with not just the ship's systems, but also destroying them in a "controlled fashion" which payed off quite well. He can easily patch any system to anywhere, even the Jefferies tubes and even the warp naccels' catwalks. He can figure out any alien system if given the time, even a complex Soliban ship. He is more full of life, and is sometimes out of line, but still an all around guy.

Communications Officer Hoshi Sato's learning speech center of her brain is still in young stage, or thats what it seems. She can pick up languages in a day, and she enjoys the challege thoroughly.

Phlox, the Denibian doctor, has an extreme bed side manner. He smiles ALL the time. He is always in a good mood, and is very forgiving. He knows what his morals and ethics are, and never trusts propoganda. He has homeopothy options, which includes Regulant bloodworms on infections and scar tissue, which, though disgusting, is very useful. He prefers organic methods to his approch to medicine, which does have its avantages, also he only sleeps 6 days a year. So unless he's hibernating, he's always there. Useful huh?

 

Thats is why I'd choose Jonatan Archer's crew above all others. Kirk's next, Sisko's third, Janeway's fourth, and Picard, well, after about 17 damage related refits PLEASE NO!!!!

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Malcolm Reed is the best tatical officer in all of Star Trek. He may be a bit stuffy, but thats what makes him good at his job. He does not allow disdvantages get him down.

 

Doctor McCoy is da man, my hands down favorite and no other character can hold up to him, ever. However, I do like Reed for a second choice!

 

- That "spit and polish" English gentleman thing, tactical officer, long line of Naval service, not afraid to take risks, appealed to me right away. Yet, like all Trek characters, he had his good points and bad points.

 

- He could kick marine MACO butt, which rocked (although, I seem to recall Mister Reed got a detached retina from that little brawl with Hayes, so he wasn't superman).

 

- He was also a little too over the edge at times - he tried to commit suicide after being impaled to the outside of the ships hull during that Rihan minefield episode. There's a marked difference btw being noble and jumping the gun, and acting like a typical junior officer, Reed didn't think his action through there.

 

- He also had the dark past thing going on with ties to Section 31 as a young ensign recruit ... I liked him even more after that little skeleton in the closet.

 

Reed also has a cute rear end. Did I type that out loud? ::purrs::

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- That "spit and polish" English gentleman thing, tactical officer, long line of Naval service, not afraid to take risks, appealed to me right away. Yet, like all Trek characters, he had his good points and bad points.

 

- He could kick marine MACO butt, which rocked (although, I seem to recall Mister Reed got a detached retina from that little brawl with Hayes, so he wasn't superman).

 

- He was also a little too over the edge at times - he tried to commit suicide after being impaled to the outside of the ships hull during that Rihan minefield episode. There's a marked difference btw being noble and jumping the gun, and acting like a typical junior officer, Reed didn't think his action through there.

 

- He also had the dark past thing going on with ties to Section 31 as a young ensign recruit ... I liked him even more after that little skeleton in the closet.

 

Reed also has a cute rear end. Did I type that out loud? ::purrs::

 

Well, Reed tried to comit suicide after the could not disarm the bomb. It was jumping the gun wee bit, but also remember the story about his grandfather, who was aquaphobic, but still locked himself in engineering of the naval ship when it was flooding to save the crew? Not to mention Reed blames himself for not joining the navy because of his aquaphobia. It was much more complex than he just want to be heroric.

And of course he is nt sperman, but he still kicked that MACO Hayes butt back in place. At least he did not stop because of that injury.

*wolf whistle* Sexy Reed, nice bum, nice arms and chest, cute face.... *purrs louder*

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Depends...if I wasn't a red shirt, then it would probably be TOS. If I was, then maybe DS9 or TNG. That about says it all.

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I really can't choose between DS9 and TNG.... I might be able to choose if I knew what situation I was in....

 

~A-L

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I meant as a permenant crew member, who would you trust the most. ENT crew is the crew I trust the most. At least they dont get caught up in romantics like TNG. No offense.

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I meant as a permenant crew member, who would you trust the most. ENT crew is the crew I trust the most. At least they dont get caught up in romantics like TNG. No offense.

 

All the Treks had some sort of romance story arc, either big or small. VOY Paris and Belanna got married; the ongoing TNG thing with Riker and Troi and a glimpse of Picard meeting an old flame in that Parisian cafe. And didn't Picard have a thing going on with Vash the grave robber/archeologist? My TNG history is rusty. DS9 had Jadzia and Worf getting married, and a story arc going on with Ezri Dax and Bashir. As for ENT, they had the romance but it tended to go the "romance goes Boom" way:

 

- Reed and Trip tried to get together with those two alien girls in a nightclub, only to end up in their underwear and drugged in a back room of the club. Not. Good.

 

- Archer had a thing going on with that woman on the resort planet (Risa, I think), only to find out she was pumping him for information on the Enterprise's mission to find the Xindi.

 

- And who could forget the Trip and TPol on again and off again relationship? Talk about the odd couple. Fiery Southern Boy and Straight Laced Vulcan woman.

 

- And there was a brief glimpse of Trip and a female MACO making eyes at one another, but that was dropped so fast by the writers it's a wonder we didn't hear the sonic boom.

 

My two top votes still go to the crews of TOS and ENT.

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I do not mean romantics as in love and sex. I mean sentimental, kinda like the old war movies, "treat my buddy first, hes hurt worse than me," stories and other movies "oh, wild horse were swept onto a sandy spit, and left there to die, but somehow lives through" "Or dont destroy the gaurdian, it will be a crime against science, even if its killing everyomne in the universe". And dramatic stuff, such as long pauses after stupid lines. "Its not where we are, its when!" Dun, dun stuff. Enterprise and DS9 was still very realistic. Who expected Reed, Trip and Archer to have the worse shore leave ever while HOSHI gets some? I never seen Archer or Sisko have a dramatic pause just staring at the stupid viewscreen.

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I kind of enjoy the romances and other relationships as long as they aren't totally aggravating.

 

~A-L

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Romantic love side plots are something that I really like. I'm glad that in DS9 that there was pair off. It just makes for better characters and more intersting plot, as long its not a new chick every week like Kirk's "true loves." T'Pol/Trip is my favorite one; it was just so untypical and bittersweet.

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From what i remember of TNG (I was about 5 when the series ended) The Riker/Troi/Worf triangle was one of my favorites.

 

::2 cents::

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From what i remember of TNG (I was about 5 when the series ended) The Riker/Troi/Worf triangle was one of my favorites.

 

::2 cents::

I agree.

 

~A-L

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See, I grew up with TNG. So TNG will always have a place in my heart. I was 5 when the show started, I was 12 when the show ended, 13 when Generations came out, and I never watched DS9...Thought it was too boring.

 

But after many years, and realizing that I had NO idea what I was getting into SIMming on the Excalibur, I used blockbuster.com, SPIKETV, and a DVR to fast forward my way through DS9, and Voyager (Sorry all, Enterprise, I could never get into, I TRIED! but couldn't).

 

So, seeing now, I have to go with Kansas' way..

 

Routine Everyday Emergency: TNG

War style Emergency: DS9

Out of the Oridinary Emergency: Voyager

 

TOS and ENT little too outdated for my taste. But I loved Chekov! He was adorable!

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See, I grew up with TNG. So TNG will always have a place in my heart. I was 5 when the show started, I was 12 when the show ended, 13 when Generations came out, and I never watched DS9...Thought it was too boring.

 

But after many years, and realizing that I had NO idea what I was getting into SIMming on the Excalibur, I used blockbuster.com, SPIKETV, and a DVR to fast forward my way through DS9, and Voyager (Sorry all, Enterprise, I could never get into, I TRIED! but couldn't).

 

So, seeing now, I have to go with Kansas' way..

 

Routine Everyday Emergency: TNG

War style Emergency: DS9

Out of the Oridinary Emergency: Voyager

 

TOS and ENT little too outdated for my taste. But I loved Chekov! He was adorable!

 

Same here on TNG! Although I never really did watch DS9. Everything I watched was reruns and I always seemed to catch the non-Dominion War episodes.

 

And if I ever met up with the Borg I'd want Picard on my side.

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So...I was going to say Janeway. Something about how she never fails to do the right thing and such. But then I was reminded of Troi's command training, her last exercise involved sacrificing the life of a crew member for the best outcome. In this scenario, we are all Starfleet officers, and the citizens of the Federation have put THEIR lives in OUR hands.

 

So we really shouldn't be worrying about if our crew is going to save our butts, but how we're serving the UFP. For example, am I trying my hardest to make diplomatic trust a reality with the Axrekravians, or am I blowing up a cargo bay?? Is Arcadia going to save my butt? B)

 

Sorry for the little inside joke there, the point is that i don't think that this topic is centered on what it means to be part of a SF crew.

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So we really shouldn't be worrying about if our crew is going to save our butts, but how we're serving the UFP. For example, am I trying my hardest to make diplomatic trust a reality with the Axrekravians, or am I blowing up a cargo bay?? Is Arcadia going to save my butt? :P

 

Sorry for the little inside joke there, the point is that i don't think that this topic is centered on what it means to be part of a SF crew.

 

I'm sure with your ships Captain being LoAmi, y'all will be rescued. And diplomacy versus cargo bay Boom-age? Hard choice there, either get in touch with your inner fast talker or explore the joy of pyrotechnics. My inner Kansas says Boomage. My inner Left Ear says go for the diplomacy.

 

One opinion: Honor. Fleet crews need a degree of collective honor in order to survive in the galactic landscape.

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