Are We Spoiled?

[Kansas_Jones 0]

Putting aside the fact that there was a dry period in the 70's before the re-runs started and then after that started there was a few year wait for TMP, we've had continual Trek goodness from 1966 up until now.

 

Ten movies, five series', conventions, hundreds of books and magazines, fan sites. I'd say that's pretty good.

 

But, the general public opinion of the "failed Enterprise series" and the various comments regarding " re-hashing the Original Series in movie" keeps bringing me back to the following-

 

Have we gotten spoiled? Possibly.

 

Is the Trek fan public at large so used to having Trek at their fingertips with DVDs, reruns, and books that the forest cant be seen through the trees?

 

I'm sure the "first fans" from the late 60's and early 70's might have a differing opinion from when there was no abundance of Trek. Any first fans out there? Please weigh in, because I am sure you have a valued perspective.

 

So, lets be honest - is the public so used to having Trek that there is a bit of closemindedness when it comes to anything new? In a way, I think this is what happened to Enterprise.

 

Hang on..lemme corral this last worm..I managed to get the others back in the can...boy those little buggers can move fast. :blink:

[Images 0]

We're doomed dude.

 

That's all there is to it.

 

Doomed.

 

However I'm going to just enjoy it as long as I can. There are two death of trek scenarios...

 

One: Trek fans will slowly die off into something weird till one day we're like those I love Lucy fans and then poof, we're gone.

 

Two: The franchise gets re-invented, trek becomes "cool" but we get cast off like people clinging to the past. Trek as we know it dies but a new one gets reborn.

 

We are lost. We're the people who argued for ages why klingons changed their headgear. We wanted to know when Sisko would come back. We are lost. Full stop. But we're the happy lost.

[will_marx 0]

I'm sure the "first fans" from the late 60's and early 70's might have a differing opinion from when there was no abundance of Trek. Any first fans out there? Please weigh in, because I am sure you have a valued perspective.

 

I'm not one of the First Ones, maybe one of the second ones, because I remember watching TOS at dinner on Channel 11, WPIX (NY), before TMP (Hell, I remember playing McCoy in preschool with improvised toy phasers and tricorders :blink:). And to be honest, I wouldn't say we've been spoiled, but we're reaching a point of saturation. 10 movies (roughly one every two years), 4 spin-off series (not counting TAS), hundred+ novels, models, computer games, role-playing games, etc., and Paramount is considering ret-conning further with a ship-based academy movie. The magic, I hate to say it, died with Nemesis.

 

Of course there may be First Ones or other second-generation types like me with differing opinions.

 

::holding the gate on the other side of the worm corral wide open::

[Philip Carst 0]

Well, there's so much Star Trek I tend to pick and choose. On a whole Star Trek is good, but there's a whole lot of it I don't like. Enterprise had quite a few episodes that I liked, but also a whole bunch I didn't. One day I can be watching "City on the Edge of Forever", the next I'll be watching the one with the space hippies, or a really bad Next Generation episode with Wesley Crusher, wishing he (or I) was dead.

 

So I guess what I'm saying is I see the forest and the trees. I just tend to ignore the rotten trees.

[Sendai Riko 0]

To me, "franchise" is a good word. It's like fast-food restaurants. It's the menu and style of the chain, but it's still owned by individual owners. You get good ones, and bad ones. Since Roddenberry's death, it's the same way. Whoever is the "franchise" owner at the time uses the basic Trek theme, but still has the leeway to choose location and personnel. :: shrug :: And, as much as we live and breathe Trek at times, it is a business, and their priority is to make money off of it, and if that means those of us that have been there through the years are tossed out the window, that's what'll happen.

[Tyana 0]

Everybody needs a break once in a while. Take SNL as an example. That's a show that's been non-stop for over three decades. Everyone goes through periods where they watch it religiously then they change cast or writers and it sucks for a while and people stop watching it. But eventually when there is another change and it gets better you start watching again.

 

Trek is more of a forced hiatus as opposed to an optional one (as in the SNL reference) but it's needed. How many times have you stopped playing a game for a while because you got bored with it, then went back an unspecified amount of time later? Of course when you go back things have changed. Some for the better, others not. And yet still not to forget the constant things that have remained unchanged.

 

Soaps recycle storylines and Trek is starting to do that. In an age of recycling successful content into repackaged crap I'd like to see it rest for a while until the era concludes. Next thing you know someone will have a meeting with TPTB and start writing Trek in the Lost plotlline format with all the unanswered questions from the start eventually unfolding.

 

Meh... I'm tired so I'll keep it short. That and I also became bored with Lost halfway through last season.

Maybe if they've got to recycle something, that kind of writing and plotline is having it's 15 minutes of fame.

 

I'd still rather see it take a power nap.

 

Spoiled? Possibly. All a matter of perspective. Look at all the people who wanted something new with Trek. It's a good example that sometimes getting what you want doesn't mean you're going to get it exactly how you'd like or as you wanted it. Can't have everything.

 

Now since it's my third day off... I'm off to power nap. :blink:

[STSF NDak 0]

Just because we have things good as Trek fans doesn't mean we have to accept the crap they gave us called Enterprise. :blink:

[Tyana 0]

Just because we have things good as Trek fans doesn't mean we have to accept the crap they gave us called Enterprise. :lol:

 

 

I agree. :blink:

[Arch Angel 0]

No we are not spoiled,we just want it all...and we want it now,::listening to the song:: :blink:

[Chris Peters 0]

Is it really “spoiled” to want the producers to make a effort. I mean hell; there are a lot of star trek episodes out there. I remember on day watching a Voyager episode where Nelix gets his lungs stolen and they need to find them quickly. And I thought to my self wow that really sounds like the plot line from TOS “Spocks Brain”. And after that I noticed that a lot of Voyager and Enterprise were throwbacks to the olden days. But I’m getting off topic. My point is that until you take a bold step forward you have nothing. So roll with it. Of course in the 70’s when they took a break and star trek fell of the face of the earth gave a time for it to reemerge with TNG. I really wouldn’t mind waiting for a decade for something fresh to come along.

[DesdemonaLevy 0]

Does absence make the heart grow fonder? Or does watching the same thing over and over make you long for something new? I don’t personally know. But I do think we are spoiled. Don’t get me wrong I love being able to watch star trek any time I like but sometimes I feel like we are kicking a dead horse. I think we should let it rest for a little while and go back and look at what Roddneberry was trying to create. Its stories about people, yes the cool ships and ladies in mini- skirts, but in the end it’s still about people. Get back to the basics. The producers need to find what drew people to the show and then take that idea and reinvent it. Maybe I am just rambling now, but I felt like I needed to get that out.

 

::throws her 2 cents in the bucket and walks away::

[eagle 0]

An excellent observation...bravo... :rolleyes:

[LadyHitchhiker 0]

I'm still waiting for a Star Trek channel. Maybe then I shall feel duly spoiled. :lol:

 

As to the future of Star Trek, let's hope we don't degenerate into such a future that Star Trek is forbidden to even be spoke of such as in Futurama.

[Tom Servo 0]

As to the future of Star Trek, let's hope we don't degenerate into such a future that Star Trek is forbidden to even be spoke of such as in Futurama.

 

i was wondering if anyone would mention that great episode. i like star trek as much as the next person, but an entire religon built on it, thats probably a little much.

[LadyHitchhiker 0]

I may worship Star Trek, and drool whenever I get a new book or form of media... but I'm not about to HAVE to worship them in order to get into Stovokor :P

[will_marx 0]

I may worship Star Trek, and drool whenever I get a new book or form of media... but I'm not about to HAVE to worship them in order to get into Stovokor :lol:

 

What? You don't think they're gods? HERETIC! :P

[Kansas_Jones 0]

i was wondering if anyone would mention that great episode. i like star trek as much as the next person, but an entire religon built on it, thats probably a little much.

 

I may worship Star Trek, and drool whenever I get a new book or form of media... but I'm not about to HAVE to worship them in order to get into Stovokor :lol:

 

What? You don't think they're gods? HERETIC! :P

 

::looks up from re-arranging her Doctor McCoy altar of worship:: Hmmm? What was that?

[LadyHitchhiker 0]

*hides Q sculpture behind her shelves full of Star Trek books* :P

Edited October 13, 2007 by LadyHitchhiker