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Dumbass

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Forget those wimpy atmosphere-only fighters.

is what I fly.

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I'd like to see a Raptor or Lightning II (JSF) do any of that.

 

By the way, did I mention the Eagle's career record of 104 kills with no combat losses (from enemy fighters)? What other airframe in the world has that record?

They expect the Raptor to out perform the Eagle, with the new stealth tech, thrust vectoring, and other stuff, but the lost wing depends on the pilot, if hes unexperienced, he wont be able to correct for the lost wing (unless hes lucky, well extremely lucky when your landing on a carrier) or you can save all that energy trying to correct and bail out of the plane. They depend on the stealth tech to keep the Raptor safe. If you get hit by a missile or a few bullets your cover is blown and you better hope they included some defensive systems.

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They expect the Raptor to out perform the Eagle, with the new stealth tech, thrust vectoring, and other stuff, but the lost wing depends on the pilot, if hes unexperienced, he wont be able to correct for the lost wing (unless hes lucky, well extremely lucky when your landing on a carrier) or you can save all that energy trying to correct and bail out of the plane. They depend on the stealth tech to keep the Raptor safe. If you get hit by a missile or a few bullets your cover is blown and you better hope they included some defensive systems.

 

Thrust vectoring, supercruise, and stealthy coatings are all nice, but I'll take balls to the wall power, dependability, reliability and a proven track record. Besides Sukhoi is already working on a counter: the Su-41 Firebird. Raptor's top speed is only Mach 1.8, which makes the Eagle almost twice as fast.

 

Of course, in this day of low-intensity conflicts, the DoD should be looking at counter-insurgency aircraft, like the Skyraider. The airframe doesn't care where the power comes from, so take the radial engine off, and mount an Allison T-56 on the nose. More power, and reliability, and the ability to use JP-4, instead of extremely high octane avgas (which they don't make anymore).

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Personally, I like this.

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250pxb17onbombruntk2.jpg

 

Personally, I like this.

 

An excellent choice as well. Just kinda hard to fly by yourself.

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Vintage aircraft section

P51 Mustang

 

http://www.jetplanes.co.uk/vintageaircraft/p51dmustang2.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P51 Mustang picture

 

P51 Mustang still going strong

 

P51 Mustang

 

The legendary North American P51 Mustang single engined piston fighter of ww2 started life as a British requirement for a high performance fighter aircraft in 1940.

The aircraft was designed and the first prototype manufactured in under 4 months. An amazing accomplishment for such an advanced aircraft.

 

The early Mustangs were powered by Allison in-line aero engines producing around 1,100 hp.

 

First delivery of the Mustang was made in 1942 to British RAF squadrons. The machine lacked the performance required due to the Allison engine originally fitted. To overcome this lack of performance the aircraft was experimentally re-engined by the British with the excellent Roll-Royce Merlin engine which had proven itself in the Spitfire and Hurricane. The plane was transformed into the superb machine that would become the legend.

 

Back in America the P51 was redesigned to accomodate the Merlin and production examples from then on used Packard built Merlins.

P51D Mustang

 

P51D Mustang on flyby

Tamiya P51D Mustang model

 

 

 

 

 

Merlin powered P51B and P51C Mustangs were issued to both RAF and USAAF squadrons.

The finest of the Mustangs was however the P51D powered by a Packard built V12 Merlin which produced nearly 1,700 hp. This machine could do about 440 mph in level flight, carried six heavy machine guns in the laminer-flow wing and could be fitted with rockets or 2,000lbs of ordnance for ground attack missions.

This machine when fitted with drop tanks could escort the US heavy bomber formations all the way to the targets and back, a feat no other single engined fighter could adequately manage. The Mustang was also a supremely capable dog-fighter which could take on any fighter aircraft put up to intercept the formations (until the appearance of ME262 jets and rocket propelled ME163 aircraft).

 

North American P51D Mustang

Engine Packard built V12 Merlin

Nearly 1,700hp Top Speed 439mph

Weight approx. 9,800lb Wingspan approx. 37ft

Length 32.25ft Weapons 6x Browning half inch machine guns in the wings of the aircraft.

2,000lb external ordnance including rocket capability.

Country USA Crew one

 

And my overall #1 preference of warbirds...and have actually "gone up in one",courtesy of my beloved fighter pilot father,may he rest in peace,on numerous occasions ... :rolleyes:

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farted1fx9.jpg Edited by Travis Kroells

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farted1fx9.jpg

 

I always wondered what happened to O'Connor (Kroells's cat on the Reaent)

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Who'd you rather be?

 

A ) Jack Bauer <24>

B ) Brock Samson <The Venture Bros>

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I always wondered what happened what happened to O'Connor (Kroells's cat on the Reaent)

 

You know, I really don't know either. Maybe it'll be one of those things never explained.

 

Maybe not...

 

Oh, and no one can be Jack Bauer. Thats the whole point of Jack Bauer.

Edited by Travis Kroells

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Personally, I'll take option #4: Your Choice, and say Yagyu Jubei, founder of the Yagyu Shinkage-Ryu of kenjutsu.

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Which is better soup stew or chowder?

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Which is better soup stew or chowder?

 

CHILI!

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CHILI!

 

Amen!

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What method would you use to kill Scrappy Doo?

 

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You know what McDonalds does now when you order a cup of coffee? They offer to put the cream and sugar in for you.

 

Are we that *^*%ing lazy we can't put our own cream and sugar in our own (^*^ing coffee? :rolleyes:

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You know what McDonalds does now when you order a cup of coffee? They offer to put the cream and sugar in for you.

 

Are we that *^*%ing lazy we can't put our own cream and sugar in our own (^*^ing coffee? :rolleyes:

 

 

Unfortunately, a lot of people are.

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thats really sad

 

Yes it is...now on to something totally different.

 

Monty Python proudly presents.....

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Yes it is...now on to something totally different.

 

Monty Python proudly presents.....

 

An excerpt from "The Penultimate Supper" (http://www.planetclaire.org/quote8.html)

 

Michelangelo: Good evening, Your Holiness.

Pope: Evening, Michelangelo. I want to talk to you about this painting of yours, The Last Supper. I'm not happy about it.

Michelangelo: Oh, dear. It took me hours.

Pope: Not happy at all.

Michelangelo: Is it the jello you don't like?

Pope: No.

Michelangelo: It does add a bit of colour, doesn't it. Oh, I know, you don't like the kangaroo.

Pope: What kangaroo?

Michelangelo: No problem, I'll paint him out.

Pope: I never saw a kangaroo.

Michelangelo: Uh, he's right at the back. No sweat, I'll make him into a disciple. All right?

Pope: That's the problem.

Michelangelo: What is?

Pope: The disciples.

Michelangelo: Are they too Jewish? I made Judas the most Jewish.

Pope: No, it's just that there are 28 of them.

 

(With apologies to anyone who doesn't like Monty Python, and might be offended)

 

Stupid gits

 

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(With apologies to anyone who doesn't like Monty Python, and might be offended)

 

Stupid gits

Anyone who likes Monty Python won't be offended. And anyine who doesn't like Monty Python... Who cares?

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Anyone who likes Monty Python won't be offended. And anyine who doesn't like Monty Python... Who cares?

 

That's why you read the spoiler, DA.

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Would you like the chicken or the fish???

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