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ShoreLeave 2007!

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First of all, for those of you who may not have heard of our annual 'Shore Leave,' a brief explanation:

 

Every summer, a group of simmers from STSF come from around the country (I think we've yet to have an international participant, but they're welcome!) to meet together in real life for a weekend for a shared vacation, generally based around some nerdy attraction. It is not an official STSF event, just a coincidental meeting of sim nerds which all of STSF is coincidentally invited to. No one is prohibited, but we don't recommend it for persons under the age of 18 and no one in STSF takes responsibility for anyone else that attends. But that said, everyone always has lots of fun!

 

But now that you know all about it.. I would like to announce that the details for Shore Leave 2007 have been decided.

 

We will be meeting in Las Vegas the weekend of August 9-12, 2007.

 

(No garuntees, but there are usually a few people already there on Thursday (which will be the 8th) to hang out with.)

 

The nerdly attraction in Las Vegas is, of course, the Star Trek Experience, a grouping of Star Trek themed shops, rides, restaurant, etc at the Las Vegas Hilton. And additionally, for 2007, we will be in Las Vegas at the time of the annual super-huge Las Vegas Star Trek convention (which, surprisingly, takes place at the Hilton).

 

 

Now, a lot of people don't go each year because they don't have the money, or they just think it will be too expensive. So as the resident Shore Leave despot and spendthrift, having gone the last 5 years and still having all my arms and legs, I'll be posting a series of guides on how to go to Shore Leave without breaking even a fragile bank.

 

Before I get started, a note about the convention. Many (including myself) were at first worried that going during the convention would be more expensive than during other times, but that's not necessarily the case.

First of all, no one is required to attend the convention. Shore Leave is primarily about hanging out with your friends, and while some will probably hang out on the convention floor, there will also be plenty of time spent seeing the Vegas attractions (many of them are free!), going to restaurants, and spending time chatting (uh.. like real life chatting, I mean) in various other locations.

The convention doesn't have to be expensive, anyway. Other than the gold club weekend pass, tickets haven't yet gone on sale for next year, but in 2006 a single day general admission pass was only $40, or $142 for a weekend pass. And a "prefered" (more access/autographs) single day was $65. But bottom line, if you want to see a little convention, you could probably drop only $40 on a Friday or Saturday pass and see what there is to see.

Also, no one is required to stay at the Las Vegas Hilton. It is very easy to get around Las Vegas these days, with many of the big hotels/casinos near each other and a monorail that stops at the Hilton and at or near every other major hotel in the area. So you can easily stay somewhere else and still be involved in everything. "Where to stay" will be a whole section of my cheapskate guide.. I'll get to that in more detail later.

In the mean time.. part 1 of the budget Shore Leave guide:

 

Getting there.

How to affordably get to Las Vegas (and back, if necessary).

 

 

First I'll address air travel, since that's what most people will likely use. The earlier you book the more likely you are to get the good cheap seats.

 

For flying, I recommend using the travel search sites that are around. Travelocity.com, travel.yahoo.com, and expedia.com are all such sites that let you search through available flights for the cheapest one. You put in dates and they'll search for cheap flights around the days specified, but there are a couple tricks for squeezing the cheapest option out of the system.

First of all, if you can be flexible about your arrival/departure at all, you'll be much better off. Each of the 3 sites above have options for searching for flights close to when you specify that will tell you if there is a better price on the day before or after. Usually flying in on Friday and out on Sunday is the most expensive option. If you can arrive a day or two early and/or leave a day or two late you can get some breaks.

Last year, for instance, I went round trip from FL to CA for $300 (not bad for cross country on short notice) by flying towards mid week instead of the weekend. The same flight was $40 more for every day I moved toward the weekend, so Fri-Sun would have been more like $420.

The three airfare search sites I mentioned have different ways of doing their flexibility options, so you might type your dates into all of them and see what gives you the best results, since they all search the same pool of flights, anyways.

Now another trick, ironically, is to NOT use the travel search sites. Heh, allow me to explain. The search sites have to make money somehow, and aside from trying to sell you car rentals and hotels while you're there, they also like to tack on a fee or two for their services. At least one of them (travelocity I think), for instance, charges you a $20 "paper ticket fee" and won't allow you to do an electronic ticket, forcing you to pay the fee. But what you can do, in this case, is go directly to the website of the airline and put in the same flight times/dates as the cheap flight you found, and the airline will give you the same price but not charge the extra fee (and probably let you get an e-ticket). Even if it looks like you're transfering between 2 airlines on expedia, they are usually affiliated so you will get the same transfer from the website of one of the airlines involved.

 

Now I mentioned this before, but it bears repeating because it makes a big difference, whether or not you use a travel search site, getting your tix well in advance keeps the price way down. The worst thing is searching yahoo travel for a flight and finding a disgustingly cheap round trip even a few months beforehand and discovering that the price that came up is sold out (it will pop up sometimes because the price is available for a different weekend or something).

 

If you really want to spend the time, I have also had success with looking into using airports that are farther away than the local one. For instance, I saved ~$100 once by flying out of San Francisco instead of Sacramento, and only had to spend about $15 and a couple hours to get from Sacramento to San Francisco by train. Larger airports that have more traffic will be more likely to be cheaper.

 

You could also try booking 2 seperate one way flights from different airlines, if you can find any one way specials, and see if you can get them to add up to less than the cheapest round trip. I have not personally done much with this, but if you're really determined (and poor) you might try it.

 

And lastly, I'll mention that Southwest Airlines tends to be on the cheap side, so if you have a SW terminal at your local airport you might want to check their website directly and see what comes up. Check out their specials section once in a while and you might find a sweet deal if you're lucky.

 

Other ways of getting to Vegas..

 

If you don't mind a long ride, you might look into taking a train or bus to Las Vegas. Greyhound.com and Amtrak.com each have service to Las Vegas. Amtrak gives a AAA discount if you have it, and can be a surprisingly cheap and pleasant mode of transportation, depending on where you are coming from. A friend of mine took Amtrak across the country from CA to NY and enjoyed seeing the sights even though it took a few days. Just a thought.

 

Another method which might be more feasible than you think is going by car. If you live a reasonable distance from Las Vegas and don't mind spending the time (yes, I realize that most of these cheap methods require extra time, but oh well), it would be worth looking into whether the cost of gas would add up to too much. In a reasonably mildeaged car, for instance, round trip gas costs from San Francisco to Las Vegas would only total about $120, with approximately 7-10 hours travel time each direction. If the distance to Las Vegas has a number of miles with only 3 digits, it might work out to be the cheapest option. One year we had a person drive all the way from Colorado to Vegas.

Now this option gets really sweet when you factor in the possibility of ride share. First, of course, you might ask around your sim crewmates to see if anyone is in your area and going to shoreleave. But you're more likely to find some arrangement online with strangers. A slightly scary thought to some, but honestly I've never heard any horror stories. Most people are just nice people also looking to make things less expensive. There are lots of rideshare sites around for various places (google search for 'ride share' and your city), but I recommend craigslist.org, which has subsites in most major cities in the United States (find yours on the right side). I'm not familiar with everywhere, but there are ROUTINELY people offering rides to Las Vegas from various locations in California on craigs list. A few years back I drove from San Diego to Vegas for SL (shore leave) and gave a lift to 2 guys I found on craigs list. Together they paid for my gas for the entire trip, plus a little more. They got really cheap transportation to Vegas, and I got FREE transportation, plus company on the long trip.

 

Well, now you've got some options to look at. It doesn't take long to go through each of these options, punch some information into some web sites, maybe do some calculations, and see what you can come up with. There are shuttles from the airport and usually a few airport pickup runs made by simmers with cars, so don't worry too much about getting to your specific hotel once you get to Vegas. Find the cheapest way to get into the general area and then worry about finding your area.

Now, there are still 10 months until Shore Leave, so you've got a little while before all the cheap seats start filling up on the planes, but if you start looking into things now, you should be able to lock down a sweet deal before they go away.

 

Thus ends the "getting there" portion of my guide. Now that you're there.... where do you stay!?

 

 

Where to stay

No, you don't have to sleep on the street.

 

 

Now, this topic scares a lot of people away from Vegas, and with good reason. Don't get scared, though.. I'm just saying that to introduce the topic. Keep reading. Anyways, to cut to the chase, I'm going to assume that if you are reading this, you can't or don't want to spend much money on a room in Vegas during Shore Leave. So this guide won't address any of the major hotels, though it's possible to get a not horrible price if you hunt around. But it will address the cheapest options for your stay in Vegas.

 

The cheapest way to stay, by far... is staying with a friend or relative :unsure: If you know someone that lives in Vegas... email them soon and let them know you'll be in town. This seems obvious, but I mention it because I think a lot of people are afraid that they will be imposing on someone that they may not talk to very often, and that it will be an awkward situation. So I just want to say that really, they'll probably be happy to see you and to help you. Last year when Shore Leave was in Orlando, I happened to remember that an old friend of mine lived in Orlando, and looked her up. We hadn't talked in several YEARS, and yet, when I emailed her to say that we should hang out and catch up, she invited me to stay in her extra room without me mentioning it. Now, the imposition comes when you EXPECT people to do things for you, so don't count on it. But I'm just saying at least consider it. Moving on..

 

Hostels

 

The best option if you don't have a contact is in one of the two hostels in Las Vegas. Now, some people think hostels are a bit scary, but again, please read the whole section and you'll see they're not that bad.

 

First of all, prices. Staying at a hostel is really quite a deal, all considered. The two I found are called Sin City Hostel, and USA Hostels Las Vegas. Prices vary a bit, but basically you're looking at about $20 a night, even on the weekend, at either one. This is for a 'dorm' style accommodation. What this means is that you'll be in a room with 6-8 bunk beds, and you'll get a bunk which will be yours alone for your stay. If you're worried about other people.. first of all, I've stayed in lots of hostels, and based on my experience, typically only a maximum of 8 people (however many beds there are) will have access to the room. It's not a rule, and I haven't stayed specifically in these hostels in Vegas, but usually you need a specific key to get into a given room. There is almost always some kind of lock or checkpoint at the front desk, too, so only people staying at the hostel can even get inside. Secondly, there are almost always lockers that you can stow your things in, so the other 7 people can't touch it. Bring a padlock with you (or buy one at check in) and you're set. And honestly.. who is going to be staying at a hostel besides other poor travelers? Yes, theft happens. But typically the kind of people crashing in a hostel aren't going to be too interested in stealing your stuff. I've only ever met nice people in hostels who are usually from someplace interesting and fun to talk to.

 

Now, if you're still worried about your property or your privacy, there is another option. The dorm style situation is the typical stereotype of what a hostel entails, but most people don't know that they usually have private rooms available as well. That's right, your own room and only you have the key. In either a dorm room or a private room you use a shared bathroom somewhere down the hall, but who hasn't used a public bathroom before? Usually facilities in hostels are actually pretty well taken care of, and the showers never run out of hot water! Anyway, even a private room will still only run you about $40 a night (and that's sometimes paying for both beds of a two bed room, so if there are two of you it's only $20 each).

 

In either type of room in either hostel, you will be given clean sheets when you check in, and free breakfast in the morning. Neither hostel in Vegas has a curfew, and both have parking available, internet access (which may or may not be free, but it's there), and a 'guest kitchen' that you can use to cook your own food.

Now here's the cool part about the hostels in Vegas... property on or near "the Strip," which is the main drag where the biggest hotels and casinos are, is pretty expensive, so the cheaper hostels are a little ways off the strip. But... the Star Trek Hilton (at 3000 Paradise Road (there's more than one Hilton)) is also off the main strip!! Sin City hostel is 1.7 miles from the Hilton, making for an easy walk over to the Star Trek Experience and the convention. The USA Hostel is also only 3 miles from the Hilton. Perhaps more importantly, there is a monorail station in the Las Vegas Hilton and one at the Sahara hotel which is actually a half mile closer to the hostels. For those of you that don't know, there is a monorail system in the heart of Vegas that goes by and through all the major places on the Strip. So what this means is that if you're going from your hostel to the MGM Grand or something, it's a short walk to the Sahara and then a $5 ride to anywhere else on the Strip. $9 for a round trip, $15 for a day pass, or $40 for a three day pass, operating until 3AM on the weekend. So even though the hostels are technically out of the way, the core of Vegas is still quite accessible, and the convention in particular is pretty darn close.

 

The two hostels are roughly the same, with a few little differences that will decide you which one you prefer. The Sin City hostel is closer by a little over a mile, so if you dislike walking this one will be preferable. But the USA Hostel, while a bit farther, is slightly cheaper if you book at their website at their website and a few bucks cheaper for a third night if you're going to be staying more than Fri/Sat. Sin City's website is pretty primitive.. it says you can reserve things there but you can't pay online. Personally, I'd recommend hostelworld.com , but there are a few other hostel sites you can book through if you like. Hostelworld lists USA Hostel as having a few more features, but Sin City has a little bit better user rating. If you need more information on then, you can check out http://www.hostelworld.com/findabed.php/Ch...untry.USA or consult the the internets. For the record, I am in no way associated with hostelworld.. I've just used a few different hostel sites and theirs is easiest and more comprehensive.

 

Budget hotels

 

Okay... just for posterity, I will also mention the two "budget hotels" I discovered in Las Vegas, AAE Casino Wild, and AAE Las Vegas Paramount. Both are virtually the same, and the AAE Paramount is even farther away from everything than the hostels are, so I'll only talk about AAE Casino Wild. The only way these will be a decent deal, financially, is if you are sharing a room with other people that you know. There are no dorm style rooms at AAE, so if you are by yourself, you will have to pay for all the beds anyways. This will cost you about $100 a night, which still isn't terribly bad, considering that AAE Casino Wild is fairly close to the strip, only a couple long blocks down Tropicana from the MGM Grand (although this will put you FARTHER away from the Star Trek Hilton. Now if you have 3 other people with you, then you can get a 4 bed room for only $30 a person, which isn't too bad. You can find out more about the AAE budget hotels at the hostelworld info link up there, or http://www.hostelworld.com/findabed.php/Ch...osenCountry.USA

 

So, stepping back a moment and looking at what we have so far.. if you really really wanted to do Shore Leave on the cheap, transportation aside you could stay in a hostel for under $40 for the entire weekend, walking around to see the sites and hanging out with your shipmates. And even if we add on some conservative comforts and frills... a private room at a hostel, a monorail pass, a convention day pass, and some free entertainment (plenty of it in Vegas).. we're looking at $160 for the whole weekend.

 

That's it for now for the 'where to stay' section of my cheapskate guide. In the not too distant future I'll be posting additional information on some of the less logistical details of the trip, such as food and entertainment, both of which can be done on a limited budget.

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Okay folks, as I mentioned in the SL2006 thread, STSF will have a "vendor table" at the next Las Vegas Star Trek Convention in August of 2007. Well, it's almost 2007 and it's time to start getting READY! As if they were reading my mind (hmmmm), Creation Entertainment has just announced a really good deal for rooms at the LV Hilton (home of the Star Trek Experience and the convention). If anyone is thinking of going, I would Strongly recommend you jump on this offer, as I don't know how long it will last. Also, don't forget to get your convention tickets if you want to enjoy the... experience! Here are the details:

 

VEGAS STAR TREK CONVENTION 2007 UPDATE!

HOTEL ROOM INFO!

It's hard to believe but 2007 is the 20th Anniversary of STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION and that epic event is one of the centerpieces of the Annual Official STAR TREK CONVENTION coming to Las Vegas on AUGUST 9-12, 2007 (at The Las Vegas Hilton). One of the sure highlights of the weekend will be the performance by members of the Las Vegas Philharmonic under the direction of Associate Conductor Richard McGee in STAR TREK: A CONCERT (Part Two). This musical night will have a special focus on Next Generation, though we won't slight other favorites Trek themes.

 

With over 70 Star Trek celebrities in attendance, non-stop events, contests, and parties: our prime directive is round the clock fun for YOU! Today, we are announcing that The Las Vegas Hilton has opened up rooming for our attendees at the great rate of $111 a night for singles, doubles or twins. This rate is much lower (in fact $60 less a night) than the rate being offered to the general public on-line at The Hilton site. To get this special rate you must call and mention THE STAR TREK CONVENTION: 702 732 5111 or 1 800 732 7117

 

MAKE YOUR PLANS NOW TO ATTEND THE CONVENTION: GOLD WEEKEND PACKAGES (OUR TOP OF THE LINE WAY TO ATTEND ALL FOUR DAYS AND NIGHTS) ARE GOING FAST AND ALMOST SOLD OUT. These packages include lots of primo autographs and are a great value. CLICK HERE TO GET ALL THE AVAILABLE INFO ON THE LAS VEGAS CONVENTION AND SEE PHOTOS FROM THE 2006 EVENT, WHICH MADE HISTORY!

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To all the STSF'ers that have gone to the Vegas con in the past:

 

1.) That $689 Gold package, for four days admission to the con, only covers one person correct? That is some serious moolah.

 

2.) If you do not have said Gold package, is there a chance you will not get into the convention?

 

3.) Are there any other one day or two day ticket options? (none showing on the Creation site)

 

This would be my first time venturing to a truly big convention, and in Vegas. Just wanted to put a shout out to try and get some advice. I honestly do not want to have to sell my first born somewhere down the line in order to attend this thing. :P

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I don't have the answer to your question, since I've never been, but I want to guarentee you that not everyone is going gold! I for one will be doing Convention-Cheap, lol. Meaning, I'm probably only going to go to the vendor tables, and maybe try to worm my way to standing in the back of some of the other events, if they're cheap enough. Espressos, Paris champagne buffets and Thunder Down Under adds up, afterall.. One must have priorities. Though if you're looking to go for the Gold package, you're guarenteed to have Blurox next to you for company... all weekend long! (Right now she's probably calculating which relative or body organ she needs to sell to get the extra money).

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Never been to the Vegas con, but I've done another Creation Con -- Pasadena, I think? Anyway, Gold is front seating and priority in the autograph line and such. There are other packages, depending on what you care about (seating, autographs, events, vendors...), and there are day passes. I believe there are even vendor-room-only passes. I would think one Creation Con would be very like another in that regard. As I recall, I got away for under $200 all told, and that included a couple of the evening special events (a talent show and... what's it called, SciFi Voices? a radio drama type of thing)

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I just made my room reservation at the Hilton. They spoke about how this good price won't last long, so if any of you are considering going, you might want to make your reservations SOON. You only need to put down a deposit and the whole thing is refundable if you need to cancel, up to late July (14 days prior to arrival).

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One year we had a person drive all the way from Colorado to Vegas.

 

Actually, that's nothing. Two years ago I drove from Chicago, IL to Las Vegas. That was a 24 hour non-stop drive in a 38 MPG Honda Civic with two other people. Now, this seems insane (yes... it was... and I will never do it again...) but the trip only cost each person around $50 to go there and back. Then we split the hotel (we stayed at the Klondike... not bad really and right next to the "Welcome to Vegas" sign) which was $60 a night. Souvenirs constituted lots of pictures. So, the budget broke down to:

 

Travel: $50

Hotel: $60 total

Meals: Up to you...

ST Experience: $50

Souvenirs: Way too many pictures

Total: $160 + Meals

 

We spent the weekend at the MGM with everyone else, walked around Vegas, paid for the ST Experience (which was $50... my only treat for the weekend) and had a blast. The trip was around $300 total per person and we had a blast.

 

My point is, you can do this for cheap, the question becomes how much you're willing to sacrifice. I personally will never drive that far again for just a weekend, the extra cost of a flight is justifiable, but, you can do it and we still had a blast. The drive was part of the adventure, I've never seen so much of the US in one sitting.

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Sadly, when you live on the otherside of the country, driving =/= not an option. So for moi, the big expense is going to be travel. :P

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Ah, the joys of California living. 2 hours to get to Vegas, and that is counting the cab ride to the airport and the security lines. :P

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I want to guarentee you that not everyone is going gold! Though if you're looking to go for the Gold package, you're guarenteed to have Blurox next to you for company... all weekend long! (Right now she's probably calculating which relative or body organ she needs to sell to get the extra money).

 

No, not going gold here; it has some neat incentives, but I just cant part with that much money for just *one* ticket. Plus, I do like all my family members and seem to be quite attached to my organs. :-P

 

 

Gold is front seating and priority in the autograph line and such. There are other packages, depending on what you care about (seating, autographs, events, vendors...), and there are day passes.

 

That is exactly what I'd be interested in - day passes, or weekend passes, definitely the vendor area, or maybe one or two events.

 

 

I just made my room reservation at the Hilton. They spoke about how this good price won't last long, so if any of you are considering going, you might want to make your reservations SOON. You only need to put down a deposit and the whole thing is refundable if you need to cancel, up to late July (14 days prior to arrival).

 

I am looking into that this week. If not the Hilton, there are other Vegas hotels.

 

 

Two years ago I drove from Chicago, IL to Las Vegas. That was a 24 hour non-stop drive in a 38 MPG Honda Civic with two other people.

 

No. My God. Car. No.

 

Sadly, when you live on the otherside of the country, driving =/= not an option. So for moi, the big expense is going to be travel. :P

 

Yes. Plane. Woo! (looking into this as well this week)

 

This should be fun. I admit, I am very much looking forward to this trip, and I am hoping everything will work itself out with regard to planning and actually doing it. A huge Trek convention, Vegas, tons of Vegas attractions, and the chance to connect STSF names to the faces. Did I mention Vegas? :-)

 

>^..^<

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Yeah, I drive an '85 Pontiac Persian, so driving aint happening. I should be good to finally go this year though, what with actually working full time now and such.

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Heh, give us more Europeans! We must start our own rival shoreleave! Hell, even if it just ends up being a trip to Stratford to kidnap Patrick Stewart when he goes back on stage, it should still be a fun time!

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I'm in images. I mean I don't even have enough relatives to sell in order to pay for a trip to Vegas but anywhere in Britain is actually feasible. Just make sure we go to a place where I can get some good Guinness.

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I'm in images. I mean I don't even have enough relatives to sell in order to pay for a trip to Vegas but anywhere in Britain is actually feasible. Just make sure we go to a place where I can get some good Guinness.

 

Heck, if it is a place with good Guinness (REAL Guinness, not the weak stuff they serve in the States) even I might show up.

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Heck, if it is a place with good Guinness (REAL Guinness, not the weak stuff they serve in the States) even I might show up.

 

That would be Dublin, DA. Guiness, as we know, doesn't travel well. :lol: :P

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Hey there,

 

After attending the big 30th Anniversary Convention they had years ago, my observations. Would I pay for a Gold Package? Not so much. Would I possibly pay for the 2nd or 3rd level of packages once they are available? I'd seriously look into it. From what I have seen, getting regular day passes at events like this is a very dangerous thing...unless you don't mind sitting in the back watching stick figures move on a stage.

 

A large part of it will be what are you going there for. Personally, I collect some of the autographs and have since I was young. I'd like to get some of the folks there, like to see some of the people I haven't seen before, etc. Now, if it's your first major convention, you may want to do everything all the time.

 

On top of this, keep in mind that I want to spend time with my friends...one of the reasons for even going. So...will I get convention tickets? Yes. Will likely wait until March 2007ish though when they release the non-Gold packs.

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I'm in images. I mean I don't even have enough relatives to sell in order to pay for a trip to Vegas but anywhere in Britain is actually feasible. Just make sure we go to a place where I can get some good Guinness.

 

Arg I'm so irritated. Looking up UK geek events I found out a huge trek thing's happenin' in london on the 5th of january, way too soon. :lol:

 

Maybe it should be my new years resolution to stop whining like a child and do something. actually plan an event. :P

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Hmm...actually, what's keeping us from getting together? How many Europeans are there on here; three, four? I mean it's not like we need to accomodate a lot of people. Let's go take over France or something.

Edited by Nicolas Lepage

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Hmm...actually, what's keeping us from getting together? How many Europeans are there on here; three, four? I mean it's not like we need to accomodate a lot of people. Let's go take over France or something.

 

Summer perhaps? Know any geek events happening you know about?

 

Haha! We've pillaged this thread!

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Summer perhaps? Know any geek events happening you know about?

 

Haha! We've pillaged this thread!

Actually, if there are just 3-4 of you and you are planning for the summer, get some cheap flights now and get over to Vegas!! Besides, I want my thread back.

:P

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Everyone quit pulling on Atragon's threads. Trust me, you don't want his outter garments falling apart on us.

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Everyone quit pulling on Atragon's threads. Trust me, you don't want his outter garments falling apart on us.

 

So, anyway...considering I'll be in school during Shoreleave, I regret that I'll be missing it this year. Although it'll be worth the chunk of change I'll be getting out of it.

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Okay folks, as I mentioned in the SL2006 thread, STSF will have a "vendor table" at the next Las Vegas Star Trek Convention in August of 2007.

 

Oh boy, when it is my turn to man the booth can I get a name tag with "Dumbass" on it?

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I just saw that Shatner and Nimoy have confirmed that they will be at the convention, now if we can just get them over to our table for a picture!

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I just saw that Shatner and Nimoy have confirmed that they will be at the convention, now if we can just get them over to our table for a picture!

 

Just as long as you're not in your elf costume, A9. :blink: :lol: :P

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