TOS Version 2.0

[FredM 0]

Hey there,

 

Seems CBS might be doing something many long time Trek fans have been talking about for decades...redoing all the TOS exteriors with modern day CGI. From www.trektoday.com:

 

The original Star Trek is being remastered for future high defintion television syndication as well as eventual release on HD-DVD with new high-definition CG effects.

 

The Digital Bits reported the story in its Rumor Mill column, which reported previously that CBS Video, which now owns the Star Trek DVDs, was planning to retransfer the original series from film to HD-DVD. All of the Star Trek feature films will be rereleased for HD release as well.

 

Bill Hunt noted that he learned from industry sources that CBS is redoing many of the original series special effects using new CG techniques. "Specifically, they're re-doing all of the spaceship shots," he wrote. "This to me is a very exciting idea...in principle. As anyone who saw the Mirror Universe episodes of Star Trek: Enterprise will tell you, the old TOS ships look awfully damn good in new CG."

 

However, Hunt added, CBS is doing this CG work in-house and it is not yet known whether any of Star Trek's longtime effects wizards have worked on the new versions of the episodes. "I tried contacting CBS and their DVD distributor, Paramount, on this subject last week, but there was basically no comment," stated Hunt.

[Dumbass 0]

Hey there,

 

Seems CBS might be doing something many long time Trek fans have been talking about for decades...redoing all the TOS exteriors with modern day CGI. From www.trektoday.com:

 

OK, but what specifically are they going to do? Dub in a young James Cromwell for that Zefram Cochrane episode? Give Khaless and Kor back their ridges? Have Anakin Skywalker replace that old, fat guy?

[Kallah Ramson 0]

Search YouTube for Star Trek Refurbished.

 

While this could be interesting I just keep thinking of a certain South Park episode.

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OK, but what specifically are they going to do? Dub in a young James Cromwell for that Zefram Cochrane episode? Give Khaless and Kor back their ridges? Have Anakin Skywalker replace that old, fat guy?

 

 

I hate how they replaced the fat guy. Darth died old, so he should LOOK old damnit. Obi wan's still Alec Guinness there for christ sake! I always liked the fact that Anakin was completely unrecognisable but you knew it was him.

 

And they removed the yub yub song. THAT is unforgivable. Only thing about the ewoks that made them cool, their pumping bass section.

[Dumbass 0]

I'm actually glad they removed the Yub Yub song.

[FredM 0]

Hey there,

 

From what I'm understanding, they are going to update the exterior ship & battle sequences with modern CGI. Case and point, Doomsday Machine redone with modern graphics could take a great episode and turn it into an amazing one.

 

It could work, might not work, don't know. But at least they are trying something...

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I'm actually glad they removed the Yub Yub song.

 

 

That song MADE my childhood. ;)

[D'raalan_Luran 0]

DumbassAug 31 2006 03:16 AM

 

I'm actually glad they removed the Yub Yub song.

 

 

 

I know I am showing my age but I guess Ill bite. What is the yub yub song?

[Philip Carst 0]

I know I am showing my age but I guess Ill bite. What is the yub yub song?

 

The song at the end of the unaltered Return of the Jedi. A very amusing song. Until someone shows you what the words are supposed to mean in English, then it sounds cheesy...

[D'raalan_Luran 0]

Thanks Carst!

[LoAmi 0]

The song at the end of the unaltered Return of the Jedi. A very amusing song. Until someone shows you what the words are supposed to mean in English, then it sounds cheesy...

It's supposed to mean something? And, that makes it sound cheesy...

[will_marx 0]

It's supposed to mean something? And, that makes it sound cheesy...

Blame John Williams. Or Lucas.

[Philip Carst 0]

This is what the first line means:

 

Freedom

we got freedom

and now that we can be free

come on and celebrate

 

I've probably just ruined the song for everyone now...Actually, almost everything spoken in another language in Star Wars means something, even if it doesn't have subtitles. Ben Burtt, if I'm not mistaken it was him, made up like 5 languages for Star Wars. 'Cept the little rat guy, he spoke a language from Africa...

 

Um, back on subject. Re-doing TOS with CGI sounds kind of cool, but most things like that don't work to well. The original is usually better. In my opinion anyways.

[will_marx 0]

 

Um, back on subject. Re-doing TOS with CGI sounds kind of cool, but most things like that don't work to well. The original is usually better. In my opinion anyways.

 

Very true. Look at the Tom Cruise version of War of the Worlds. True, it was faithful to the book, and was a magnificent sfx masterpiece, but it was kinda...blah, at least compared to the 1954 version.

 

And then there's Emmerich's 1998 imaging of "Godzilla". Another sfx masterpiece, but cheesy. And to say nothing of what it did to two generations of fans of Toho's "guy in a rubber suit, stomping on a model of Tokyo" Godzilla movies.

 

I just hope that the Eyeball treads carefully with their CGI attempt at TOS.

[D'Mysus Ramson 0]

It all comes down to what you like. If they add a space shot of the Gorn ship in "Arena" then I'll like that but if they replace the Gorn captain with a CGI critter then I will be upset. It's the same argument as when colorization of old black and white films became popular.

 

I'm not against re-editing things as long as the original is still easily availible and respected. But people will always prefer for the most part what they grew up with. Case in point, Tom Baker will always be THE Doctor to me while this current generation will claim that of...whoever it is doing the part right now. The fear is that if this generation grows up with the enhanced Star Trek then it will be hard to get them to watch and respect the "original" Original series.

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This is what the first line means:

 

Freedom

we got freedom

and now that we can be free

come on and celebrate

 

I've probably just ruined the song for everyone now...

 

Well you have for me! I just thought they were silly stupid critters singing a song about yub yubs....whatever those are ;)

[Captain Huff 0]

Awesome!

 

Now here're some questions:

 

1. Will they make the first season uniforms FIT? Like, extend the uniform arms actually down to the actors' hands?

 

2. Will/can they take away some of the cheesy filters whenever the camera is on a woman?

 

Hehe. Personally, I'm totally FOR some serious CGI in TOS, and I'll tell you why.

 

1. The old ones will *never* be lost. Every nerd will own the complete set of Original AND CGI. We will never be without the big un-movable cheap plastic Gorn head.

 

2. Cool CGI will make TOS appealing to the younglings. Most younglings will tell you they don't like TOS because it is so cheesy. Well, we nerds all know it is way more than its cheesy special effects, but if you don't watch it, you'll never know. Cool CGI will hook 'em and keep TOS alive.

 

3. There is absolutely nothing you can do to make "Spock's Brain" feasable in any way. Except leave it out. (Which would be very sad, lol).

 

4. Cool stars... Awesome flying and battle shots of my favorite Trek ship of all time.... Cool planets. The Gorn, the Andorians, The giant flying Bugle... I mean Doomsday Machine, the rubber vomits, I mean Denebian thingies, Ooo... the Salt Monster... Cochrain's lover. Tribbles that move better? And lest we forget... Shuttles that don't jerk and jiggle on their strings...

[STSF Seiben 0]

Well you have for me! I just thought they were silly stupid critters singing a song about yub yubs....whatever those are ;)

 

 

Ewoks?

[STSF NDak 0]

What Huff Said!

[Dumbass 0]

Actually, almost everything spoken in another language in Star Wars means something, even if it doesn't have subtitles.

 

Duel of the Fates is an ancient Welsh poem, Cad Goddeu (Battle of the Trees), translated into Sandskrit. In English, a translation attempting to keep the rhythm and rhyme would be "Under the tongue root a fight most dread, and another raging behind, in the head."

Edited August 31, 2006 by Dumbass

[will_marx 0]

 

4. Cool stars... Awesome flying and battle shots of my favorite Trek ship of all time.... Cool planets. The Gorn, the Andorians, The giant flying Bugle... I mean Doomsday Machine, the rubber vomits, I mean Denebian thingies, Ooo... the Salt Monster... Cochrain's lover. Tribbles that move better? And lest we forget... Shuttles that don't jerk and jiggle on their strings...

 

How 'bout a Constellation that doesn't look like an incomplete version of the old AMT/Ertl plastic model from "The Doomsday Machine"? Or better battle formations in "The Ultimate Computer"? Or the hull numbers facing the right way in "Mirror, Mirror".

[STSF Seiben 0]

Awesome!

 

Now here're some questions:

 

1. Will they make the first season uniforms FIT? Like, extend the uniform arms actually down to the actors' hands?

 

2. Will/can they take away some of the cheesy filters whenever the camera is on a woman?

 

Hehe. Personally, I'm totally FOR some serious CGI in TOS, and I'll tell you why.

 

1. The old ones will *never* be lost. Every nerd will own the complete set of Original AND CGI. We will never be without the big un-movable cheap plastic Gorn head.

 

2. Cool CGI will make TOS appealing to the younglings. Most younglings will tell you they don't like TOS because it is so cheesy. Well, we nerds all know it is way more than its cheesy special effects, but if you don't watch it, you'll never know. Cool CGI will hook 'em and keep TOS alive.

 

3. There is absolutely nothing you can do to make "Spock's Brain" feasable in any way. Except leave it out. (Which would be very sad, lol).

 

4. Cool stars... Awesome flying and battle shots of my favorite Trek ship of all time.... Cool planets. The Gorn, the Andorians, The giant flying Bugle... I mean Doomsday Machine, the rubber vomits, I mean Denebian thingies, Ooo... the Salt Monster... Cochrain's lover. Tribbles that move better? And lest we forget... Shuttles that don't jerk and jiggle on their strings...

 

::Also in agreeance with Huff:: That'd be sweet...

[FredM 0]

How 'bout a Constellation that doesn't look like an incomplete version of the old AMT/Ertl plastic model from "The Doomsday Machine"? Or better battle formations in "The Ultimate Computer"? Or the hull numbers facing the right way in "Mirror, Mirror".

 

Hey there,

 

Actually, to me, "Doomsday Machine" featured some of the best special effects of TOS. I thought the Constellation looked alright when compared to effects of the day (and in the rest of the series). "The Ultimate Computer" could use a serious upgrade. The potential was there, and in fact they were using AMT plastic models for the other ships, but it was just impossible (I believe) to get the effects realistic given what was supposedly happening. A battle sequence featuring five ships? A little much in the late 1960s. Bloody hell, it wasn't until the late 1970s that ILM made it look somewhat realistic in Star Wars.

[Dumbass 0]

3. There is absolutely nothing you can do to make "Spock's Brain" feasable in any way. Except leave it out. (Which would be very sad, lol).

 

[Chell Reno 0]

I think the idea is awsome of redoing the special effects. I'definatly pic a copy up... though it would feel weird whatching all those old episodes with modern graphic work.