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New Trek Movie Announced!

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I think the key phrase here is 'under new management.' Rather than continue with the DS9 / Voyager / Enterprise team, they are going with the Mission Impossible / Lost / Alias team. They are also returning to the TOS era, dealing with Kirk and Spock's first encounters.

 

This will certainly shake things up. I'm just wondering if they are going to try to pick up the Roddenberry theme, and play with the TOS / TNG idealism at all. In my rather biased opinion, Trek became ever less popular and less Trek as the post Roddenberry gang depended more and more on violence and subterfuge to advance their plots. This makes the choice of the MI / Lost / Alias crew a bit dubious. We'll have to see what they come up with.

 

Does anyone see, if they return to Kirk's Enterprise, a return to TOS uniforms? Will they go with the Millennium Falcon school of bruised and battered space ships, or imitate the 60s orange and green version of a clean future? They are going to have to recast the roles of Kirk and Spock. Would they try to recast more of the original crew?

 

I hope they don't forget Bones. It took three to make that chemistry work. The TOS series was in some ways a repeat of the Gunsmoke pattern, featuring the Dillon / Chester / Miss Kitty triad.

 

The possibilities are.... fascinating.

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Is this what Shatner was talking about? On Tony Danza...? Or where ever...

 

Anyway, cool. I hope. I hope the director knows what he's doing, and doesn't scew it all up...'Course, that's just becuase I don't have high hopes for mission impossible three.

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I hope they don't forget Bones. It took three to make that chemistry work. The TOS series was in some ways a repeat of the Gunsmoke pattern, featuring the Dillon / Chester / Miss Kitty triad.

 

As much as I'd love to see Bones, I see no mention of him in either article. Which I don't like.

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Nice Vatric

A picture speaks a thousand words.

 

I do gotta say tho it is a sin to not have Bones. That is like have the Scooby doo with out Shaggy. You just cant do it!

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YAY!!

 

::doing the happy "It's not dead yet!" dance::

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This is either going to be /realy/ awesome...or trek as we know it will die.

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Okay, I am really really happy about a new Trek movie going forward, and love the fact that it will center on Kirk/ Spock (and the Original Series to an extent). ::Woo Hoo Happy Dance::

 

With that said, Bones McCoy isn't mentioned at all (nor are the other TOS characters, but I am all about McCoy). He's my boy! I hope he is included!

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I was just speaking with my contact at StarTrek.com and mentioned our excitement. He said he's known about it for 3 weeks and was bursting to tell someone (he should have told us, we would have kept it to ourselves, right??)

 

So, I mentioned that some folks are hoping for McCoy to be around and he was wondering if Kirk and Spock would have met McCoy in the Academy or later. He is older than them and wasn't even on the ship for the pilot/early episode, "Where No Man Has Gone Before." To take it one step further, is there any evidence to suggest that Kirk and Spock went through the Academy together anyway? I know it will make for interesting drama, but who says they met there?

 

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I was just speaking with my contact at StarTrek.com and mentioned our excitement. He said he's known about it for 3 weeks and was bursting to tell someone (he should have told us, we would have kept it to ourselves, right??)

 

So, I mentioned that some folks are hoping for McCoy to be around and he was wondering if Kirk and Spock would have met McCoy in the Academy or later. He is older than them and wasn't even on the ship for the pilot/early episode, "Where No Man Has Gone Before." To take it one step further, is there any evidence to suggest that Kirk and Spock went through the Academy together anyway? I know it will make for interesting drama, but who says they met there?

 

According to the Star Trek chronology, Spock entered Starfleet instead of the Vulcan Science Academy in 2249 and served aboard the USS Enterprise as a cadet under Captain Pike in 2252. He graduated from the academy in 2253

 

Kirk enrolled in Starfleet in 2250 and graduated in 2254.

 

McCoy graduated from medical school in 2253.

 

Theoretically it is possible that all three knew one another given the standard four year tenure for the normal academy and the eight year medical program.

 

Of course, this being Hollywood, they could always just throw our valuable canon to the four winds and make us howl in pity for the memory that was Star Trek :P

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While I like the idea of new management, I'm not so sure I like this idea of rehashing what has already been done by looking back at the younger adventures of Kirk and Spock, especially since this "new management" hasn't proved itself yet.

 

But I will keep an open mind and reserve judgement for now, since it is good to hear some news, and it could turn out well.

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To take it one step further, is there any evidence to suggest that Kirk and Spock went through the Academy together anyway? I know it will make for interesting drama, but who says they met there?

 

This is not considered canon, I know, but wanted to throw this out there to show that it could be possible:

 

Star Trek Starfleet Academy: Cadet Kirk (#3)

Written by: Diane Carey

Published: 1996

 

This was a book written for ages 9-12, ::Ahem - I picked it up anyway:: Ms. Carey did manage to have McCoy, Kirk, and Spock get together for a wee bit of an adventure turned mission. Kirk was a Cadet, age 19 (mentioned in the book); Spock and McCoy were graduated, older (I think in their Twenties, dont remember if this was specifically mentioned), and had a sort of Ensign Cadet rank. If anyone wants extreme specifics I can go rooting and dig the book up.

 

So, if it can be done in a book and made believable, it can be done in a film I'd say. :P

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Does this mean we all have to rush out and see Mission Impossible III?

 

If they cast Tom Cruise as the young Kirk I will gag.

 

Why do I smell a fishy marketing gimmick?

 

They need to come up with something fresh.

 

Enterprise has already taught us the lesson to move forward, not backwards.

Agreed. What was wrong with continuing Star Trek past the DS9/VOY stage? After all there is a universe of story telling which could, theoretically, engage people forever.

 

Perhaps the creativity has dried and in order to recharge the franchise, they reckon they can inject some new Kirk and Spock into it, to bring it back as reinvented.

 

It's sad when they do that. I watched a couple of Enterprise shows, but couldn't really get the hang of them due to their, in my opinion, lack of 'Star Trek quality' about them. They felt more like Stargate Atlantis.

 

Bring back the starfleet as we know it and I'll be buying popcorn every week until I explode.

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Finn Posted on Apr 22 2006, 11:40 AM

Perhaps the creativity has dried and in order to recharge the franchise, they reckon they can inject some new Kirk and Spock into it, to bring it back as reinvented.

 

If they are lacking in creativity they could turn their eyes to this forum. Heaven knows there are some seriously good ideas coming out of here.

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Hey there,

 

It's nice to see that there will be a "new chapter" within the Star Trek franchise. That being said...

 

I am scared, mother.

 

The rumored "Starfleet Academy: 90210" series back in the mid 1990s is coming to life. Well, maybe....maybe not. Let me put it like this. If the film's script and director treat it like, let's say, a 24 or Battlestar Galactica and resist the urge to treat it like The OC, we'll be fine. Problem is, I'm not certain that isn't the intent.

 

It's nice that we will be getting back to the "core" era and the "core" characters of Star Trek. However, who is going to play these two? Let's be honest, I think it is highly unlikely you are going to see William Shatner or Leonard Nimoy in this film. Heck, Nimoy himself has said for years he's done with acting...period. Besides, we'll be talking about two characters in the early/mid 20s....not their early/mid/late 70s.

 

What also somewhat concerns me is the fact that "new management" doesn't seem to have any idea of where to take the franchise next. By that I mean, we're not "moving forward" or anything like that...but instead having to return to characters that were originally created over forty years ago. I mean let's be honest...as painful as it is to admit...there are a large number of Star Trek fans that have never see The Original Series. There are many that have never seen the first six movies and have no intention of doing so.

 

Guess I'm just afraid that this isn't going to be the saving grace of the franchise and may result in another disaster...something Trek can't afford too many more of.

Edited by FredM

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The rumored "Starfleet Academy: 90210" series back in the mid 1990s is coming to life. .

 

It's nice that we will be getting back to the "core" era and the "core" characters of Star Trek. However, who is going to play these two?

 

What also somewhat concerns me is the fact that "new management" doesn't seem to have any idea of where to take the franchise next. By that I mean, we're not "moving forward" or anything like that...but instead having to return to characters that were originally created over forty years ago.

 

...may result in another disaster...something Trek can't afford too many more of.

I agree. Part of me shudders at the thought of a "90210" Star Trek, and I am worried about the "new management", uh, to put it bluntly, blowing it. I am all for the early adventures of Kirk and Spock, but honestly, I prefer mid to late twenties, after the Academy, not teens.

 

Now with all that said, I can't help being excited.

 

I do like the fact that the film may be set back in the TOS time frame, centering on a younger Kirk, Spock and whatever new characters they may encounter. And mentally, I see pictures of the orginal series unforms in all that velour and colored glory on the big screen - Woo Hah!

 

And as Fred M pointed out, yes, many fans have not seen the original series. So...maybe this film might be a good introduction? Then again, TOS is my favorite of the series, so I'm probably biased. Just can't help it.

 

As for the issue of the series again "moving back" and not forward, I am coming in from this angle - why not? If three of the sequel series can be set in a future time frame, and one series in the very early years, why not pop back into the by gone years of the first series that started it all? It's such a big universe to play in. Why not go for it?

 

I could also come in from this angle as well - TNG, VOY and DS9 are all set in the same 15 to 20 year time period. One show after another was "stuck" in this same era, how boring. It was about time Trek broke out of that rut and chose the early ENT era for a new, fresh Trek show idea. :P

 

I'm just looking forward to this new film/project. Hopefully, it will get of the ground.

 

But, ultimately, not everyone will be satisfied with the result. You really can't satisfy all us Trek fans out here, because there are so many differing tastes, series preferences, and viewpoints.

Edited by Kansas_Jones

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Move forward?

"Star Trek: The Generation After That"

Edited by Philip Carst

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A new Star Trek movie. Don't get me wrong; I would love a new Star Trek movie. But this rumored Academy plot? Gag me with a spoon. I want Star Trek, not something like Friends in Space or anything like that. I would much rather prefer the now-shelved Jendresen script for a Romulan War-era movie (although, who's to say that the Academy idea won't get trashed and they'll use Jendresen's idea).

 

Of course, while I hate the idea, I'll still watch it to determine if it's any good or not. Personally, I think that Trek needs to stay in hibernation for a few more years. I hope this worth it.

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Wait, you guys are Trekkies? I must've stumbled on the wrong website!

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Wait, you guys are Trekkies? I must've stumbled on the wrong website!

You should see the Doctor Who UK website! You'd never believe they even watched the show! :P

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::wraps himself up in a shield of SG-1, Atlantis, BSG, Farscape and many other sci-fi's to keep the hurt of this killing Trek from getting to him::

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I'm excited.

 

But, I think by "new management" they mean new management @ viacom, and not so much with the series itself.

 

Smitty

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I'm excited.

 

But, I think by "new management" they mean new management @ viacom, and not so much with the series itself.

 

Smitty

Actually, it could be both. It is a new producer, and Berman and Braga will not be involved with the project.

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