I wacthed First Contact again and well.......

[Elgor 0]

They took FOREVER to realize the Borg were on the Enterprise I mean really! Anyone have any comments or theoryes on that?

[WesleyMustDie 0]

The Borg do not register on internal sensors.

[Atragon9 0]

I kept waiting for Zephram Cochrane to turn to Barkley and say, "That'll do pig, that'll do."

 

 

[Kansas_Jones 0]

The Borg do not register on internal sensors.

That would be the "official canon reason" I would assume.

 

Now, plot wise, the writers needed to build some tension leading to action, so movie wise, thats why the Borg weren't detected.

 

I'm sure if someone had the patience and dissected each Trek film, all sorts of plot-movers could be detected.

 

That'll do pig.

[Elgor 0]

Remember Worf's best line? "Assimialte this!" the best line in the entire movie

Edited January 23, 2006 by Elgor

[Murdok Helios 0]

Yeah i saw that to today, it was on scifi right?

[Elgor 0]

Yep

[WesleyMustDie 0]

I kept waiting for Zephram Cochrane to turn to Barkley and say, "That'll do pig, that'll do."

 

 

:blink: Hehehe...that would have been funny.

[Elgor 0]

::wonders if he can bribe the Paramount guys to make that seen be::

[HyperDrive 0]

I was watching too, and also reliving the past. As it turns out, I had a seizure last time I watched FC.

 

This time went a little better. ::nodnod::

 

Overall, its a good movie. I enjoy it, even though some plot aspects are a little week.

 

Such as, in the beginning, when the reason they weren't affected by the Borg taking over Earth was because they were in the temperal wake. I just find that a little far-fetched, I suppose. That, and the entire "travel back in time to save the planet" gig has been done so many times (and twice in Star Trek movies, and even more in the shows). :blink:

[Elgor 0]

and what's really confusing is why did Geordi have to remake the Borg's time travel thing? I mean really why didn't he just do the slingshot manuver? I mean really an old Klingon Bird-of-Prey can do it so why can't a Soverign class starship?

[LoAmi 0]

Such as, in the beginning, when the reason they weren't affected by the Borg taking over Earth was because they were in the temperal wake. I just find that a little far-fetched, I suppose. That, and the entire "travel back in time to save the planet" gig has been done so many times (and twice in Star Trek movies, and even more in the shows). :blink:

The temporal wake didn't bother me so much.

 

I just wish we could've had more Star Trek movies and major plot arcs that didn't involve time travel. Above all, I wish they could resist the urge to write plots involving time travel to old Earth. Considering how many ships there are in the Federation, and the hole in space-time ("the Pothole") that's somewhere in the Sol system, there was probably a Federation starship sitting in orbit of earth at all times during its history :-)

[Elgor 0]

Good point why not Vulcan, Alpha Centauri, Qo'oN'oS, Romulus, the list goes on and on! So why can't they just go back to old Vulcan or something but noooo they have to go to Earth

[WxMurray 0]

Such as, in the beginning, when the reason they weren't affected by the Borg taking over Earth was because they were in the temperal wake. I just find that a little far-fetched, I suppose.

Actually, it does make sense. The wake protected the Enterprise from changes in the timeline in the same way that the Borg Sphere would be. The Borg need to be protected from changes in the timeline in order to change it. So if the Enterprise was close enough to get caught in it, too, then they are protected as well. If there were two more ships that were caught in the wake, they would also be protected.

[HyperDrive 0]

Yes, but the wake shouldn't have actually existed. You either go back in time, or you don't, and changes would be made immediately (since the actual changes were taking place years and years in the past). Their idea of getting the Enterprise-E back in time was just a little far-fetched for me. Sure, the idea of the wake plot makes sense, but it doesn't make sense why the wake exists there to begin with. :blink:

[Elgor 0]

easy you never go back in time immediantly in Star Trek

[Garnoopy 0]

Yes, but the wake shouldn't have actually existed. You either go back in time, or you don't, and changes would be made immediately (since the actual changes were taking place years and years in the past). Their idea of getting the Enterprise-E back in time was just a little far-fetched for me. Sure, the idea of the wake plot makes sense, but it doesn't make sense why the wake exists there to begin with. :blink:

"The future is the past, the past is the future, it all gives me a headache." ~ Captain Kathryn Janeway

[Craven 0]

Lets all keep in mind that the ideas of timeline changes in the present caused by visitation, in layman's terms "the butterfly effect" is all purely theoretical. The idea of a temporal wake isn't all too far fetched if you look at it from the idea from that perspective ;)

[Elgor 0]

How did me simply noticing a plot thickener change into a physics debate?

[Guest Vulcan3324]

::snicker:: And there's nothing wrong with that. ;)

[Images 0]

Favourite part of First Contact...You so knew that Lieutenant that went walking on the hull with Picard and Worf was doomed which just made his demise that lil bit more fun!

 

Same goes with Nemesis, the guy who flies through the broken viewscreen, just has a HUGE bullseye on him.

[AndrewLyon 0]

As memory serves internal sensors were down, so they couldn't detect the borg.

[Elgor 0]

I guess you're right and in a way it all led up to Worf's line "Assimalate this!"

[Mimi Glarr 0]

Excuse me, this may b off the issue here, but was no one revolted when, watching First Contact, Data smooched with the Borg Queen?!

[Philip Carst 0]

Same goes with Nemesis, the guy who flies through the broken viewscreen, just has a HUGE bullseye on him.

Wasn't that Brian Singer? Or was it someone else...Data "smooching" was a bit weird because it was...weird.