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[Murdok Helios 0]

WOW, "Scar" was soooo cool!

 

Getting thrown into the lives of the Fighter Pilots was great, amazing dog fights, the snipts of witch you saw anyways. Really great acting love the whole thing.

 

Heres a podcast, with the creaters talking about the epsd. http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/..._ep215_FULL.mp3

(Heads up there are a few f-bombs, describing starbuck. ;) )

Edited February 4, 2006 by Murdok Helios

[Kansas_Jones 0]

WOW, "Scar" was soooo cool!

 

Getting thrown into the lives of the Fighter Pilots was great, amazing dog fights, the snipts of witch you saw anyways. Really great acting love the whole thing.

 

Heres a podcast, with the creaters talking about the epsd. http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/..._ep215_FULL.mp3

(Heads up there are a few f-bombs, describing starbuck. ;) )

**SPOILERS**

 

"Scar" was an excellent BSG episode.

 

I originally got away from BSG during the past 5 months or so, mainly because the show wasn't doing much with the fighters. Woo! I sure got my wish last night with "Scar".

 

And what is up with that Viper jockey Kat? Holy Walking Attitude Problem Batman. Love it! I really thought Starbuck would wipe the floor with Kat after she punched Starbuck. Matter of fact I was mildly dissapointed that it didnt happen, lol!

[Murdok Helios 0]

She would have but Lee walked in ;)

[LoAmi 0]

And what is up with that Viper jockey Kat? Holy Walking Attitude Problem Batman. Love it! I really thought Starbuck would wipe the floor with Kat after she punched Starbuck. Matter of fact I was mildly dissapointed that it didnt happen, lol!

** SPOILERS **

 

Great episode. I actually like Kat in this episode, and it's good to have some competition for top hot-shot pilot. Starbuck has become jaded, and Kat is there to remind her of what she was like before that.

 

That said, I'm not so much into the thing they've been doing this season with starting the show near the end and showing the events leading up to it. It looks like an attempt to create suspense that could have been done equally well or better by watching the progress of the plot. Also, showing the same scene again and again just seems like a way to make the actual plot shorter. They cut out to commercials on the same thing twice!

[Murdok Helios 0]

Well, in the podcast they talk about how they had only enought money for one dog fight in space. SO they had to work around it. Those CG sences aren't cheap ya' know

[Kansas_Jones 0]

I noticed the start at the end of the episode, cut to beginning, build to end formula also. I didn't think anything of it, just figured it had been in place for a while due to me missing a few eps.

 

Now, I didn't mind it or anything, and thought it was neat. But, does that constant cutting back and forth fit into BSG? It reminds me of unfinished editing.

[Aaron_Westler 0]

I think the ending at he beginning is kinda cool - but it gets confusing. Also, they should only do it once in a while, they did the same thing last week.

 

Is it just me, or are they avoiding the main plot of finding Earth here? The last two episodes have been pure character builders - I want meat, not sauce ;)

[Kansas_Jones 0]

Is it just me, or are they avoiding the main plot of finding Earth here? The last two episodes have been pure character builders - I want meat, not sauce ;)

I loved the character building in "Scar". ANY thing having to do with the kick butt pilot culture in BSG is okay with me. I love them Viper jockeys!

 

Besides, they'll eventually find Earth. Don't want to overkill the "lets find Earth" plot line anyway considering that is the whole point of the show. Once Earth is found, I guess that would be it for BSG?

[Elgor 0]

Well they could always have the Cylons attack Earth

[Kansas_Jones 0]

Well they could always have the Cylons attack Earth

Well, yes, but then it wouldn't be BSG anymore. It be Earth against the Cylons, and very boring.

 

The drama coolness factor on BSG is you have these intergalactic refugees in a constant running battle with the Cylons. That makes the show unique and interesting. If they ever do locate Earth, it wouldn't be BSG anymore. IMO.

 

2 words and a year as a good reason against this idea- Battlestar Galactica 1980. Yikes! ;)

Edited February 6, 2006 by Kansas_Jones

[LoAmi 0]

Besides, they'll eventually find Earth. Don't want to overkill the "lets find Earth" plot line anyway considering that is the whole point of the show. Once Earth is found, I guess that would be it for BSG?

Or we might end up with Ron Moore's reimagining of Galactica:1980, to which I can only say: yuck!

 

I don't think they'll find Earth anytime soon, and it makes sense that they aren't even close. It's far away! They've been focusing on getting by day-by-day, and that makes sense at this point in the plot.

[Elgor 0]

I invision a two hour series finale where they reach Earth, big space battle with the Cylons, Starbuck gets killed, and the Galactica is destroyed

[Dumbass 0]

OK, I can see Apolo being promoted to Major, but then he gets promoted to Commander completely skipping Colonial and now outranking Tigh just a few days later? Come on, old man Adama is playing favorites here! I mean sheesh, at least LaForge had to wait a season before going from LtJG to LtCmdr.

[LoAmi 0]

OK, I can see Apolo being promoted to Major, but then he gets promoted to Commander completely skipping Colonial and now outranking Tigh just a few days later? Come on, old man Adama is playing favorites here! I mean sheesh, at least LaForge had to wait a season before going from LtJG to LtCmdr.

It makes sense from the perspectives that (1) Col Tigh has already showed that he would rather be in an XO position than in command, and (2) there is a general shortage of experienced command-grade officers. The same is probably true on Pegasus (given that Adama put the inexperienced CENG in charge). Who else would he have put in?

[will_marx 0]

2 words and a year as a good reason against this idea- Battlestar Galactica 1980. Yikes! :lol:

I agree with you on that, Kansas. BSG-1980 gives me nightmares, that's how unbelievably flippin' bad it was.

 

But, Ron Moore could do a much better BSG arrives at Earth scenario. And in fanfiction, it's been done. Sorta. Of course i starts out as a Macross(Robotech)/SG-1 cross: http://addventure.bast-enterprises.de/frec...Liberty+Station, then spins off from there to multpile crossovers, including a Macross/SG-1/ST:Enterprise/Battlestar Galactica cross: http://addventure.bast-enterprises.de/frec...-+Rag+Tag+Fleet

 

Unfortunately, the Zor's Bet threads seem to have died an ignoble death. Don't rightly know why.

[Dumbass 0]

It makes sense from the perspectives that (1) Col Tigh has already showed that he would rather be in an XO position than in command, and (2) there is a general shortage of experienced command-grade officers.  The same is probably true on Pegasus (given that Adama put the inexperienced CENG in charge).  Who else would he have put in?

A couple things here:

 

1) It is much cooler to be in charge of "The Beast" than "The Bucket". Adama should have given Galactica to Apollo and transfered himself to Pegasus since it is tactically more superior.

 

2) What is wrong with CENGs in command positions? (Note the signiture)

 

3) What in everyone's opinion is worse? Galactica 1980 or the 2nd Highlander movie? (Not The Final Dimension, the one that came between Dimension and the original. If you haven't heard of it that is a good thing as I don't think any Highlander fans consider it canon.)

 

4) Is Kansas even old enough to remember Galactica 1980?

Edited February 21, 2006 by Dumbass

[LoAmi 0]

A couple things here:

 

1) It is much cooler to be in charge of "The Beast" than "The Bucket". Adama should have given Galactica to Apollo and transfered himself to Pegasus since it is tactically more superior.

 

2) What is wrong with CENGs in command positions? (Note the signiture)

 

3) What in everyone's opinion is worse? Galactica 1980 or the 2nd Highlander movie? (Not The Final Dimension, the one that came between Dimension and the original. If you haven't heard of it that is a good thing as I don't think any Highlander fans consider it canon.)

 

4) Is Kansas even old enough to remember Galactica 1980?

(1) Cooler, technologically, maybe, but, it's not Adama's ship. Commanders get attached to their ships and crews. There's no reason to mess it all up just to take over the bigger ship.

(2) There's nothing wrong with CENGs in command positions in general. Scotty and Laforge (by the end of TNG) would have made good captains. The problem is that the particular CENG had no command experience of an entire battlestar, and didn't seem like he had developed the character for command either.

(4) Galactica:1980 was rerun in its entirety on the Sci-fi channel [and, I think on Space, for the Canadians to, uh, enjoy]. You don't have to be very old to have seen it.

[Kansas_Jones 0]

4)  Is Kansas even old enough to remember Galactica 1980?

::Gets all outraged, points cane, takes a swig of Ensure:: Why you little..... :lol:

 

I'm teasing. I *was* around when BSG 1980 first aired, but very young and more interested in Saturday morning cartoons and the General Lee catching some air.

 

I didn't even realize there was a 1980 BSG series until a few months back when Sci Fi aired the eps, as LoAmi pointed out. BSG 1980 just had me going WTH, and the '78 series is just better quality.

 

And whats this about Apollo promoed to Major? I know in "Scar" I realized that Starbuck is now a Captain.

 

Now, I did blank out on BSG the past five months or so, and I catch the eps sporadically (Well done series though). My question - anyone think that these promoes are really coming fast? Starbuck seems to be heading for a wall with the drink, and shes an upper rank now. Kat went pill happy, and is she now the squad leader with Starbuck the CAG? And Apollo has jumped very quickly into the upper ranks. I'm wondering if they can all handle these new ranks.

Edited February 22, 2006 by Kansas_Jones

[STSF Precip 0]

The "Beast" is truely a beast. Pegasus has gone through what..three CO's now? LOL I suppose since we know Apollo will not die...the "Beast" will have to settle for something else.

 

Pegasus took what...Three Nukes in "Captain's Hand". I certainly hope Ron Moore is not going to take us down Voyager lane with the Indestructable ship syndrome.

 

Still it is a huge ship...and if I heard correctly from "Scar" They build Vipers on her. That is amazing. Pegasus is certainly a tough nut to crack from the outside...we'll just have to see as I suspect...and speculate...how she handles a nuke detonating in her, courtesy of Baltar.

 

Precip

[eagle 0]

::Swigs his geritol....looks at the bottle.::.....omg,i remember the geritol

commercials that aired back then... :lol:

[Travis Kroells 0]

Pegasus took what...Three Nukes in "Captain's Hand". I certainly hope Ron Moore is not going to take us down Voyager lane with the Indestructable ship syndrome.

Not to side with unrealism, but wasn't Pegasus the flagship before the Cylon attack? You would hope that she could take a couple hits before exploding. I mean the Enterprise...

 

...Oh wait, they did that in Generations.

[LoAmi 0]

Given that nukes are the Cylons' current weapon of choice, it would seem reasonable that one would want to build a ship that could withstand a few hits. It's also probably easier to take a nuke hit in space than it is in atmosphere. In space, without air, there's no blast wave. The heat danger depends on where the weapon explodes. If it explodes on the hull, it can transfer a tremendous amount of thermal energy to the ship's hull. The biggest hazards, then, are the thermal (possibly) and projectile momentum of the initial explosion and nuclear reaction occurring on the hull, the massive radiological danger if any of the radition penetrates the hull, and the EM pulse that can destroy equipment from a distance (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/conghand/nuclear.htm).

[will_marx 0]

Given that nukes are the Cylons' current weapon of choice, it would seem reasonable that one would want to build a ship that could withstand a few hits. It's also probably easier to take a nuke hit in space than it is in atmosphere. In space, without air, there's no blast wave. The heat danger depends on where the weapon explodes. If it explodes on the hull, it can transfer a tremendous amount of thermal energy to the ship's hull. The biggest hazards, then, are the thermal (possibly) and projectile momentum of the initial explosion and nuclear reaction occurring on the hull, the massive radiological danger if any of the radition penetrates the hull, and the EM pulse that can destroy equipment from a distance (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/conghand/nuclear.htm).

Although, considering that these are Colonial starships we're talking about and not your ordinary average satellite, and they've fought the Cylons before, so they know what their prefered weapon of choice is, the Colonial Navy has probably taken into account for nuclear detonation against the hull, and has appropriately hardened their vessels against radiation and EM pulse.

 

As I recall, the Galactica took at least two hits in the pilot, and survived with minimal damage, and no EM damage.

[Dumbass 0]

It's also probably easier to take a nuke hit in space than it is in atmosphere. In space, without air, there's no blast wave.

Hold on, didn't you see Superman II?

[will_marx 0]

I think what Lo'Ami was referring to was the concussion-- that wall of superdense air, or water, that forms when the warhead detonates. There ain't a lot that can stop something like that.

 

In fact, during Operation: Crossroads, the Bikini Atoll tests, the USS Saratoga was picked up fifty feet into the air and thrown half a mile, during the Baker detonation, which was a submerged nuclear detonation, and the concussion wave was non-compressible water.

 

Pretty impressive feat for a 33 thousand ton aircraft carrier to be thrown that distance. And at the same time, very frightening.

 

On a footnote, USS Saratoga was originally laid down at Camden, NJ, as a battlecruiser. So her armor was almost as thick as a battleship's.