What your favorie class?

[Nemesis 0]

True t'rex but there is one large problem with the warbird no rear weapons are farely weak shields compared to a federation vessel. The cloak is a great weapon but bad for anti-cloak scanner which starfleet has nearly perfected and its size is a downside because a smaller class star ship can easily place themselve at a perfect place where they can hit the Warbird but the warbird can't hit them. The warbird though is a great vessel for several jobs on the romulan fleet containing lots of science areas which shows that the Romulans are merely misunderstood in the beta and alpha quaderants.  :D

[Vex Xiang 0]

A shame this ship is so badly misrepresented in the Star Trek Encyclopedia (only two torpedo launchers??).  A better reference to this "gunship" like starship is the Starship Spotter book published in 2001. by Paramount.  I love this vessel because, in my opinion it is the latest descendant of the Miranda Class Starship.  The last being the Nebula Class. I enjoy seeing the people who design these ships add elements from prior classes.

 

I always thought of the Akira class as a "redesign" of the old NX Class starship from "Enterprise". People keep complaining that the NX01 looks so much like the new Akira. But I think its easily explained if they had the old design and just updated it for the 24th century.

[ensign_Stron 0]

One problem, (this is not a in trek comment) Startrek designed the akria first. :D

[Vex Xiang 0]

One problem, (this is not a in trek comment) Startrek designed the akria first.

 

Enterprise is Star Trek :D

[Travis Kroells 0]

that Excelsior, Miranda and to a certain point even Constellation class ships have survived/are in service in the late 24th century....makes sense that refitted Constitution Class vessels probably would be as well.

Fred, you already shoved us in that ambassador class!  You better not be thinking of downgrading us more!

[Vex Xiang 0]

Kroells careful. He might be planning to shove all of you into the cockpit of a Phoenix Class.

[FredM 0]

Fred, you already shoved us in that ambassador class!  You better not be thinking of downgrading us more!

Mr. Kroells,

 

There is far more to the world of Star Trek than having a ship with a lot of weapons on it. I actually find that refitted older designs are a good place to have a game. It mandates that you focus on the game instead of totally relying on technology. :D

 

As for a Phoenix Class vessel...eh...little hard to fit everyone aboard. Now, a sim aboard a refitted Constellation Class...now that's a possibility. :)

[Nemesis 0]

My favorite ships are the ones leaning more to exploration which is why I love the warbird. These ships are the best for the expand more of what the Federation and humanity wants knowledge and not conquest :D

[ensign_Stron 0]

My favorite ships are the ones leaning more to exploration which is why I love the warbird.

Say theres a kind of feederation ship like that too, whats it called again??

  oh yeah Intrepid Class  :laugh:

[Sovak 0]

Something has to be said for roots.  The design of the Constitution Class was the root of most other classes of Federation ship out there.  (And in RL terms, even the NX Class)  My vote goes to the Constitution.

[Vex Xiang 0]

I thought Intrepid class was more like a battleship. Ens Paris referred to it as such in an episode.

[Nemesis 0]

It was it was and its first mission was to take care of the Maquis and they probably wouldn't survived if it wasnt a battle ship but exception for voyager that made it into a science vessel was the fact Kim built an astrometrics lab but it still had no science comparison to say the Galaxy class or full science vessels.

[Vex Xiang 0]

anyone know what the current "science" vessel is? First it was the Oberth, then the Nebula...but now with the new gen starships out anyone know what it is?

[Nemesis 0]

I think now after the borg treat and dominion wars there are no pure science vessels and I think the Soveriegn is one of the more science vessels in the fleet.

[Grom 0]

I know that there are scientific enhanced Norway Class Refits too...

[FredM 0]

Hey there,

 

Few things....it's been shown online and I believe there's a reference to it in an episode. The "Intrepid Class" held features/functions similiar to that of a destroyer. The size of the vessel, speed and number of persons aboard support this theory. It wasn't a ship designed for deep space exploration.

 

As to the role of the Sovereign Class, I'd debate how many of them actually exist. While I know there were "RL" reasons for it, they were not featured heavily in fleet movements during the Dominion War. This leads one to assume that not many ships of the class existed as late as four years ago. Probably leads one to assume it takes a year or so to get one of them up, not to mention resource requirements.

 

I'd venture to guess that in many respects the "leinage" of deep space explorers is still doing just that. This would include the Ambassador Class, which had production stopped for the Galaxy Class. I personally think probably both the Galaxy and Sovereign designs are still in production. SMaybe not as many of the former, but still being built. These designs, along with the Nebula Class, would probably make up the "outer exploration/scientific" aspect of the fleet.

 

As for "already claimed areas of the Federation requiring scientific research," I think the Nova Class was shown to have become the "in-production" design Starfleet is using. This ship was probably the answer to the aging Oberth Class, which did seem to mostly work within Federation territory doing scientific research,etc. Even in Star Trek III, the Grissom was within Federation space. After all, Starfleet had a "secret" research base in that very area.

[Travis Kroells 0]

::shakes his head in confusion, lost in the topic long ago::

[STSF Precip 0]

Starships..what's your favorite?

 

In response to Fred..I can't believe I forgot the Mirandas...lol..Heck! Still frontline on DS9!

 

Interesting comments regarding USS Voyager, I find it interesting Paris referred to it as a battleship, for she clearly hasn't the size nor armament for that description.  Her survivability on ST:Voyager, was how shall I say...almost unbelievable.  I was surprised at the absence of Intrepid classs vessels on DS9..(unless someone who has the DVD has spotted a fleet of em CGI). My only thought was sombody at Parmount wanted that ship exclusively seen on Voyager.

 

Still say the Akira is my favorite!

 

Precip

[Nemesis 0]

The interpid wasn't a large battleship to take on larger ships on its own more like a fleet ship like the ones built near the end of WW1 to help with the distruction of German U-boats

[FredM 0]

 I was surprised at the absence of Intrepid classs vessels on DS9..(unless someone who has the DVD has spotted a fleet of em CGI).

Hey there,

 

I did not recall the title but I know an Intrepid Class was the featured "set" for one DS9 episode. Did some research and what do you know....

 

In the 7th season episode "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" (click here for episode details) part of the adventure takes place aboard (what I believe was) the U.S.S. Bellerophon. This was an Intrepid Class starship.

 

As the Miranda Class, the issue there is how many designs of the ship have there been. I mean, Miranda VIII Class...sure. But the original design I'm certain has been phased out by now.

[STSF Precip 0]

I am not aware of any numerical designations for the Miranda Class Starship. Certainly there are variants..most notably the Soyuz class vessel..which was constantly colliding with the Enterprise D in a temporal loop of some sort.  ST:MAG did an entire Techical breif on the Miranda class and her siblings.  The Book "Starship Spotter" by pocket books suggests that many Miranda's were built. And we know Starfleet was desperate in the Dominion war..bringing back old ships...and creating some rather odd classes!

 

I really look forward to seeing those latter episodes on DS9 being on DVD! So much more I'll be able to see..including these "Frankenstien" ships mentioned in the DS9 tech manual. I also will be looking to see if they used a CGI of a Sovereign in one of those fleet scenes.

 

Precip.

 

PS Thanks Fred for the tip on the DS9 episode!

 

 

 

Of course one must give a tip of the hat to the Constitution refit....for without those vessels..the Miranda's may never have come to be in existence. Her decendants being the Nebula and Akira class.

[Vex Xiang 0]

I've been given the impression that the Enterprise E was the first Sovereign. Just because Geordi said they were the most advanced ship in the fleet....if the USS Sovereign was out there, wouldnt it also be the most advanced...and would have been involved in the Borg cube attack in FC?

 

And they had been out in space "testing" the ship for over a year as mentioned in FC also. If there was already a starship USS Sovereign, that had already been tested and such, why would the Enterprise E need to be tested for a whole year?

[Tovan 0]

My favorite ships are the ones leaning more to exploration which is why I love the warbird.

Say theres a kind of feederation ship like that too, whats it called again??

  oh yeah Intrepid Class  :laugh:

ah be quiet

[Tovan 0]

I've been given the impression that the Enterprise E was the first Sovereign. Just because Geordi said they were the most advanced ship in the fleet....if the USS Sovereign was out there, wouldnt it also be the most advanced...and would have been involved in the Borg cube attack in FC?

 

And they had been out in space "testing" the ship for over a year as mentioned in FC also. If there was already a starship USS Sovereign, that had already been tested and such, why would the Enterprise E need to be tested for a whole year?

because the soverign was the first it was dispatched to other places and it kind of was attacked i think, but thats just in bridge commander.

[FredM 0]

I've been given the impression that the Enterprise E was the first Sovereign.

Hey there,

 

Previous Trek history shows that the first ship built of a class is named it. Thus, Constitution Class had it's first ship be the U.S.S. Constitution. Excelsior Class had the U.S.S. Excelsior, etc. To this end, I think it's logical to assume the U.S.S. Sovereign was the first Sovereign Class launched.

 

As to why the Enterprise-E was being tested after one year, the creation of a new class of ship is a big thing. Trying to figure out if the design is going to be feasible for the fleet is also a big job. I think it's logical to assume there are several of the class roaming about. In the beginning, perhaps there was some reported problems and thus they weren't positive about continuing the design.

 

As for the lack of them being featured in First Contact, it is true that while the cat's away the mice will play. You'd want some ships still protecting the Federation. If not, an alien force might take the opportunity to attack. Even if the Borg are defeated, the planet Trill may have exploded. ::shrugs::