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My Red Matter theory: Contact with red matter causes normal matter to compress into a singularity. The red matter has no gravitational pull of its own. The resulting black hole is determined by the amount of matter the singularity is fed rather than the amount of red matter. This is why when the whole bottle is smashed into the Narada the entire galaxy wasn't sucked right in. The parts of the Narada that came into contact became singularities, pulled together to make the black hole, but did not comprise enough matter to instantly suck the entire ship in. I had the question though why they could not just drop the red matter onto the planet surface and wait for the same result. I try to explain this by saying a weak black hole burns itself out quickly (see previouse thread about Romulan AQS') and would explode before consuming the entire planet. By being placed deep in the planet matter is fed quickly enough in not to cause the singularity to go critical. On the surface the singularity would first absorb the atmosphere and less dense top soil. The feed of matter wouldn't be fast enough to sustain it. It's a stretch but works for me for as little as we see it in the movie.

Yup. If the bare bones of the story sounds rotten I don't see any "fleshing" out making it any better. As always, my opinion. And here is the art I took my forehead opinion from. Looking at it again, it could go either way. The brow is definitely more prominent than expected but there is less of a ridge. At least the hair is more of a Roman cut and less bowl with V bangs. And yes, TOS Romulans are the only way to go.

Luckily, they never mentioned any Borg tech being part of the Narada in the film itself. I've heard this in background info and as part of the comic book that worked as a lead up to the movie. Thankfully, that isn't cannon...because it's stupid. The entire comic (from the summary I read) looked pretty stupid as well. The Romulans are reduced again to fools worried more about personal pride and too dumb to see obvious destruction ahead. Characters that have no real business in the story show up just to have a familiar face present. And from some of the artwork I saw they even put the forehead ridges back on the Romulans....and that alone deserves a kick in the teeth.

The one problem I did have with the engineering decks was that using an existing warehouse, plant, or manufacturing facility in filming the inside of a spacecraft is a major B-movie practice. If you go by such B-movies, it's amazing the apparent usefulness of concrete in spaceship construction ::eye roll::. While Star Trek kept most all it's views to metal equipment and structural supports it still reminded me of so many bad movies doing cheap on their location budgets. But as its been said, TOS engineering was more like that then our current concept of main engineering.

I built it in the virtual world of SecondLife. I'm sure there's better rendering programs but I already have the "land" there to build things and I'm use to it. I have the Star Trek:Starship Creator but it's more of a joke than anything. Here's a larger view of the ship. Some notes: The idea is a joint design between the Romulans and Starfleet. This is why the nacelle glow is green and the nacelle pylon and pod unit form a wing structure somewhat like a warbird's. It's a small craft, slightly smaller than a Nova-class but a little more sturdy in it's construction. It doesn't have a name yet, I've stuck the NX-97000 tag on it for now.

I've painted my wife green for ShoreLeave one time. Camo paint works good for that. Otherwise, no. You can probably check out the message boards for some of the fan films out there for tips.

The Motion Picture: Like watching a birth, not always pretty but it got Trek living again. Wrath of Khan: Personally, one of my favs...but I have no problem with anyone thinking less of it. Search for Spock: This one has grown on me as times gone by. Voyage Home: Fun, just as simple as that. It was fun. Final Frontier: ARGH!!!! Any movie can be saved or killed in editing and this one was done by blind chimps! And visually it just wasn't pretty in any possible way. Undiscovered Country: Another Fav. Generations: Everything the Enterprise-D went through and a beat up old Klingon Bird of Prey destroys Starfleets flagship. Humph. First Contact: Well, it's good.... but I have never liked the new direction they took the Borg in from this point onward. Before they cared little about people and just wanted to sample all technology. They were a true hive mind, with the thoughts of each being the thoughts of all. Assimilating Picard seemed like a long, hard process which they'd never done before...they just bred their own and added the tech as they grew. First Contact turned them into something outta a B zombie movie (though I do like zombie movies). If ya get bit you'll turn into one! They even looked like zombies. The sterile white faces were changed to sickly gooey look of decay. They even had their own necromancer leader in the Borg Queen. Insurrection: They gave up at this point trying to find a good excuse for getting Worf back on the ship. They gave up the idealistic view of the Federation. They gave up on sanity in a few scenes. But it still was okay to watch. Nemisis: Maybe it's because I wasn't expecting the Romulans to be portrayed any better than they had up to then but I didn't mind this one that much. OH, the director hadn't a clue what he was doing with the cast and the whole Data/B4 thing should have been left on the cutting room floor. But I actually liked the Picard/Shinzon thing. I think I've also rewritten this movie in my head enough times that my versions have grown on me therefor I give the original a little slack.

With your example, yeah... the junior officer would just call security. Say the assistant Engineer noticed the anti-matter injectors doing something odd. He would notify his chief unless he saw that it was something extreme. Basically, if he saw something and made the judgment call to take the whole warp drive off line right then and there without asking his chief... it had better have been an emergency. If it was he gets a medal. If it wasn't, he gets transferred to waste management.

I think the Kelvin was on a short ranged mission. 1. If the black hole formed in the past anywhere near it's original location then it should be somewhere around Romulus and since the Kelvin was already in that area it had to be on the Fed side of the Neutral Zone. So, basically somewhere between Romulus and Earth. 2. When the original Enterprise responded to the Romulan attack in Balance of Terror they too were alone without backup, even though they were in the same close area between Romulus and Earth. 3. When the black hole reformed when Spock exited, it was mentioned I thought that this was near Vulcan, adding to the idea that it was located somewhere in local space. Uniform Colors: They evamped them between TOS and TNG, they could have easily done so between pre-TOS and new-TOS. And, I love the 4 nacelled ship, though I was wondering if it had 2 nacelles and 2 secondary hulls. It looked more to me like a 4 winged Miranda-class.

I've always liked the single nacelle non-canon ships like the Nelson and/or Hermes class. As many kitbash ships fans have made over the years I was surprised at what they showed in the movie. Not that you got a good look at anything with it bouncing across the screen in the filming style used but the Kelvin was interesting and some of the ships seen as the "fleet" moved out for Vulcan were pretty cool looking.

hehe, that even got my head spinning. Fun stuff. So, the mirror universe is the original one but the events of First Contact created the kinder gentler Federation we know. That's a nifty idea though there's a paradox in that the alternate reality (the friendly-verse) created itself by influencing the past.

Quantum Stuff: Someone mentioned matter passing between universes. I've heard before that gravity may also spread out the same way, which is why overall it's such a weak force. Weak Plot Device: I think what we've been talking about shows it was a factual (as scifi gets) plot device, not a weak one. It may not have been presented in a way everyone could understand. But I think it's more a matter of we've always seen the hero's save the day and return the universe to it's proper order. That only happens though because producers don't want to totally retool their series everytime they do a timetravel plot. So, they've almost always taken the "weaker" plot road of "everything is back to normal" and "they lived happily ever after". Ejecting the core: This got me too as well as the whole look of all the engineering sections. But, then I started to think of how the original Enterprise engineering section looked. There was no massive warp core chamber in the center. There was a row of coils or electrodes or sparkplugs or whatever behind a metal mesh screen. That seemed to be more in line with ejecting the core and seeing several containers flying off. What the movie did: I know my non-Trek friends had a millions questions for me about whether this was an in joke or that meant something. They all liked it and some may be going back to see it again.

Random thought, the NewLine timeline which the movie and future movies will be running in might be one of the alternate realities Worf jumped in and out of in the episode Parallels. Adding to the head spinning theories: the idea that matter and energy can not be created or destroyed would to me make it hard to believe a new reality would be "created" by time travel. So, that would lean me to believing that ALL possible events are played out in one reality or another. The problem though with that in the Trek universe is traveling between these realities has happened. So there should be a reality where such travel happens all the time...and with all possible events playing out there would be a reality in which it's people have traveled to ALL the other realities. The problem is then that with all possible events playing out there has to be a reality that is never visited by another. So you kinda have the irresistible force smacking into the unmovable object on that one. Then again some quantum type folks say the Big Bang was another dimension "smacking" into ours which, at the impact point is where all the universes energy and matter came from. Thus is a way I guess "creating" another universe... namely our own. Or you can just believe Genesis 1:1 but that's even more off topic than we've already gotten. BACK TO GENERALLY THE ORIGINAL TOPIC.... how long are we keeping the "spoiler's" to this thread? I'm thinking this alt reality/timeline conversation has gone a little off topic but is still in "spoiler" land so might not be best to split the topic. And I'm sure there's other details and such that will need to be talked about eventually. Was there a set time planned to say "If you haven't see it yet, too bad"?

But that's not how timetravel works in this theory. They could kill Nero's parents but that only stops the Nero that might eventually be born in that timeline. But the Nero from the other timeline still has already come back. It's more of a mess to kill the parents because then if Nero was never born and never came back to destroy Vulcan then there would be no reason to kill Nero's parents thus he is born and does all the things to want him dead. That's a solid time paradox. The time travel really does make sense in this movie. Did we ever wonder why Spock didn't try and travel back to his future? Even if he felt he needed to help rebuild Vulcan society you'd think his knowledge of events would threaten the Temporal Prime Directive too much. BUT, in the time theories used in this movie he can't get back to his future. They are now in a different timeline. Him traveling to the future would put him in a future he wouldn't recognize. He's on the wrong road to get back to where he started from... and there is no way to get on the right road. In all the other movies and episodes they would have solved this by time traveling forward to help Spock stop the super-supernova before it did destroy Romulas and all would be back to normal. That is actually not based very well in realistic temporal theory. That would create paradoxes all over the place. But then that worked for Voyage Home. So, it does kinda come down to simple enjoyment. I've heard this compared before. The Mad Max movies were enjoyable even though the idea of a post-nuclear war society centered around fuels for cars and not food or water is silly. But the movie The Postman was a flop even though it showed the post-apocalypse society coming down to a manageable level in a realistic way with real priorities. So time travel is just a plot element for telling a story. If it's not believable to some then it's failed. But personally it makes more sense than any other time travel seen in Trek so far. I think perhaps all the bad time travel we've seen before has left us not knowing good time travel when we see it.

I agree with the "You're a cadet, now you're first officer, now we're giving you your own ship" thing being a little crazy. For my own sanity I assume that in their version you gain ranks as you progress in the academy. Or, holding to a super idealistic future rank could not be based more on your raw abilities and shown abilities over what might be termed "archaic" merit systems. Not that I agree with that idea but that could be how they see it in the future. It was annoying but not enough to ruin the entire movie for me. The time travel aspect actually was more realistic then most times it's come up in Trek. One of the more logical theories on time travel says if you travel back your very presence creates a new timeline. And, there's no way to get back to the future you know because now you're stuck on a whole different road. If you travel forward in time you're going down the road created by your presence. The less you do in the past the more the road will be like the future you know but those you left behind will never see you again. The one area this movie kinda broke those rules is when Spock traveled back in time 25 years after the Narada. In the above theory the Narada would have gone back and started a new timeline. Spock would have travel back along the original timeline and come up before the Narada had created the NewLine. So, spock would have shown up in the history he knew without the Narada ever showing up, destroying the Kelvin and all that. Of course the second Spock did show up he would have created yet another timeline. I try to rectify that in my mind by saying they both traveled down the same timetunnel therefor they would be deposited into the same timeline no matter when or what the other did. Something like that could also explain why in Yesterday's Enterprise the timeline changes then changes back. The temporal vortex was always open therefor maintaining the original timeline in some fashion until it was closed. Now, when it did close a new timeline was created with Tasha now in the past and effecting events. We simply followed along the story that now ran in that new timeline. Anyone's head explode during that explanation? No, good. One of the best scenes in scifi time travel is Lister on Red Dwarf explaining a time paradox to a camera which keeps exploding because it can't handle the paradox.

Gary 7 was from the 60's and the Enterprise actually got in his way for the most part. Their actions were mostly to correct the interference their presence caused. There's no proof the signal from Archer's time ever made it to the Borg and even if they did they won't arrive till TNG time since that's what happens in the PrimeLine. But otherwise all those events are still out there and a whole lot more. But it's impossible to know what little things might have changed. A different starship might find Khan and friends. A different ship might find the Nomad probe and without a name it confuses for it's creator(Kirk/Roykirk) destroys the ship and moves on towards Earth and the events of ST:The Motion Picture play out then with Nomad instead of years later with V'Ger. And while not realistic to say, all these events might still be changed because of the new timeline. We saw the Enterprise-D surviving into the future in the last episode of TNG yet the movies killed it off rather quickly. And what of Picard timejumping with the help of Q caused that type of change? Possibly best not anything to over dwell on but still interesting to ponder about.

MacGyver doesn't need a spaceship...he's got Stargates! As for the movie, it was there to entertain and I was entertained. I was also VERY pleased with EVERYTHING Romulan. THANK YOU for taking those stupid forehead ridges off the Romulans and showing them without bowl cuts, especially women. I liked how the XO spoke for Nero at the start just like on The Enterprise Incident. That is also a very old custom which we can see in eastern cultures and even in the Roman Empire. Example, for Bible students out there this is why when Paul was preaching in Lystra that they thought Barnabas was Zeus even though Paul was doing the talking....the leader doesn't lower himself to talk to common people but sends his messengers. Anyway, a nice touch I noticed and appreciated. I also loved the mention of 3 Romulan dialects which reinforces my idea that the Romulan people have as deep and varied cultural background as anyone else. The tattoos also added to this, as a mark of class distinction and pride. Nero said himself he had chosen a life of honest labor and I don't see the tattoos as a mark of being a lower class but as pride in their occupation and the part they did for the Empire. This helped break the "scheming" stereotype stuck on Romulans for so long and returned the "creatures of duty" shown in TOS. And yes, I am okay with the destruction of Romulus. Why? Because of all the great plot potential. The Romulans have an empire so it's not like losing this one world is the end of them. I take it the Romulans had more time to evacuate than the Vulcans and while not everyone got off the planet I'm sure the Senate did, most all mobile fleet assets, and a fair number of citizens. There are plenty of established planets to relocate to within the Empire so they are not suddenly galactic vagabonds. Something akin to what we saw starting in The Undiscovered Country could happen now between the Romulans and Federation. And it's not like it's the first time they've relocated homeworlds. Historical note: the Roman Empire lasted for hundreds of years longer than Rome itself did. It's city streets were goat pastures while the glory of the Empire continued in the new capital of Constantinople. Likewise I see the Romulans continuing onward. Many may call for war with the Federation for the failure of Spock but they also might see he risked (and as far as they know lost) his life trying and in saving the rest of the Empire. In the years of nothing to base events in our sims on that were supported by canon we (in this timeline) are given a grand nugget to build from. Also the fact that we will probably never see major expansion of the "PrimeLine" timeline, in favor of the "NewLine" timeline gives us freedom to do as we wish without backing ourselves into a corner. We want to have the Gorn join the Federation, fine. We want to start a Tholian War, fine. Perhaps that might be taking too much liberty but I get the feeling that Trek as we knew it has written it's last chapter. Well, not it's LAST chapter. Taking a scene from The Lord Of The Rings, the book has been given to us to write the last chapters. It is now our story to tell.

Time it just right and auto-destruct the torp as it just launches. But there's probably a couple of safety systems to prevent that. Trek battles are usually rather unrealistic in my mind. But one true thing is probably how close they sometimes are to each other. Given much of any distance and it becomes very easy to see the shot coming. This is probably why stray shots aren't much of a problem. Space is big and the chances of crossing a beam at the right time to impact is small. And you can see it coming quite easily. And as said, if the beams are limited to sublight it's easy to get out of the way or simply outrun it. Torps would travel for as long as their warpfield stays intact. After that they would drift until either they self destruct or power for their antimater containment fields gave out then they'd blow up anyways. Side note: One of the best Trek battles I've seen, the fanfilm ST:PhaseII - Blood and Fire. Just watch the intro "teaser" clip.

The "Next Frontier" or "Final Frontier" may sound romantic but with every frontier there has come a battle over that territory when resources or space becomes limited. I think we've always had it in our mind outer space would be free of such trends becomes there is so much space that there would be plenty to share. While nowhere near overcrowded yet we may be edging towards the first orbital boarder skirmishes. The idea of an orbital smelting plant sounds brilliant. It costs millions of dollars to get objects in orbit... why not make use of what's already up there. The main hurtle would be finding a cost effective way of altering orbits so it's worth gathering up loose objects. Then I guess there's salvage rights to deal with. May take another 50-100 years for there to be enough raw material up there to make a buck at this anyways.

Understanding why things burn up in the atmosphere is like thinking about slamming on your brakes. You do that at high enough speed and your tires leave a black skid mark on the road. A random space rock tumbling through the emptiness of space hitting the atmosphere does about the same thing. It's nice and happy in the vacuum between the planets with not much of anything ever getting in it's way. Then it comes racing towards Earth and hits the atmosphere. Right now where I'm at we've got a nice wind going at about 15 miles an hour and it's kinda hard to keep your hat on if we get a gust. The kinds of speed the rock is going will take more than your hat off. Find a big ball of mud and shoot it with your water hose. That's kinda what happens to any space debris traveling at speed through the atmosphere. The object has to be big enough to have something left of it by the time it reaches the surface or be made of something hard enough to survive reentry.

To - Joy, Ambassador (Federation of Planets) From - Chief of Engineering (Aegis) Be fully at ease that the Romulan Star Empire will not give sensitive equipment to any of your Starfleet. They have made it clear in their policies to refuse advanced technologies to those cultures they deem unready for it. We of the Empire are more than pleased to aid them in this by withholding technologies the Federation is not advanced enough to operate and maintain responsibly by themselves. This most assuredly includes cloaking technologies as covered by the treaties between our governments. There is the possibility of a test bed (NX as your Starfleet would register it) vessel that would have certain items installed beyond what we would supply your Federation with. This would be for experimentation and test flights primarily. If it is operated under a Federation flag issues could be handled in similar fashion as the treaty amendments which allowed the Defiant to operate a Romulan cloak. Hopefully any such new agreements would not be breached as often as the Defiant ones were. While the vessel is slated to be a blending of Romulan and Federation design I am in serious doubt that the crews will be joint as well. Each ship will be delivered to one government for use as they deem proper. How any ship assigned to the Aegis project would be handled is up to those above me in the chain of command. I am unaware of anything in regard to the nature of this new colony. Until I know more I can not offer support of allied funding or equipment. Whatever the nature of the colony however a separate defense grid localized around the planet would be more effective then any extension of the currently deployed system. -Chief of Engineering, Aegis.

Did a little looking into the whole Hawking radiation thing and some of the practical ideas behind an Artificial Quantum Singularity power source. First, the thought that an AQS could get free and cause a world destroying black hole is unfounded. As I think Tachyon mentioned the smaller the singularity the more radiation it produces. This apparently is because beyond a certain mass the radiation can't escape it's gravity. One thing I read said a singularity with the mass of the moon would be in equilibrium, basically anything more massive than the moon would not produce any energy and anything less will. It would then seem the AQS power core would be a balance between power output and longevity. Smaller would mean more power and less effect on ship performance and mass. But you get too small and your power grid would be in constant overload and the core would evaporate quickly. You see the more radiation it produces the smaller the core becomes and then even more radiation is produced, thereby increasing the rate of shrinking and power output. A basic cascading overload situation. Your AQS core would then need to be massive enough that after a good long service lifetime the core is still not in danger of going critical in this manner. In the article I was looking at it also spoke of the possibility of creating a micro singularity to test for the pressence of Hawking radiation. So, creating an AQS isn't that far fetched. The ones they were talking about would be so small that they would evaporate quicker than they could draw in new matter. This would probably also be the case for an overloading AQS core. While it might try and suck the ship and surrounding area into itself it would be losing mass as radiation quicker than it could gain mass. As the AQS died there would either be an explosion or a sudden burst of gamma rays or both. Either of these are probably what would destroy the ship... not the gravity. This doesn't mean the AQS is harmless. You could probably drop a standard AQS into a sun and the core would begin to suck in the stellar mass. It would grow, increasing it's gravity thereby increasing the rate of eating up the sun until you have a black hole with the mass of the sun. But what exactly would that mean? We're still talking about a set total sum of mass. If the sun is the size of a nickel does that suddenly mean it has enough gravity to suck all the planets into itself? The true science people out there might have the answer to that. My thoughts are it would not. The singularity nature of things I believe would mean the sun would go black, no more thermal radiation, and the worlds would all freeze very quickly. But, they would still revolve in their orbits. That's at least my guess. Then, is a matter/anti-matter reactor that much safer or better? We know from Trek canon that these cores produce hazardous waste. Personally, antimatter would scare me to death. There are so many times in Star Trek where the ship loses power and all systems go down. One little brown out in the antimatter pods shielding and it's all over with. You're literally riding around in a bomb waiting to go off. The system also has a lot of moving parts, integrated systems, and simply put a whole bunch of things to go wrong. You have your fuel to haul around which if you look at the cross section of the Enterprise-D, the deuterium tanks are massive and must effect ship performance. Then you have all the times the dilithium crystals give out, injectors fail or stick open, coolant systems leak.... my word the things more like driving a Pinto then a state of the art spaceship!

In the episode "Starship Mine" we had people trying to swipe trilithium resin, which was described as a toxic waste material from the ship's warp core. A Trek tech fact born more for plot purpose then realism most likely. The matter/antimatter reaction should creature pure energy and nothing else. I would guess that the waste is actually from something else involved in thre whole process, probably from dilithium. One possible work around with the AQS always producing energy is to up the mass again to something which does not release Hawking radiation. Then you either use some Trek tech gizmo (tunneling cochrane field siphon) to draw the radiation out or perhaps throw a warpfield around the core which is suppose to reduce mass and therefor push the AQS over the equilibrium line so that it now releases energy. All that probably however creates more problems than it solved. One beauty of the AQS is it's containment field is directly powered by the core itself. If all power is cut from the core and to the core the containment fields stay powered and in fact the fields would increase in strength because power is going nowhere BUT to field containment. Containment can only be lost if the AQS shuts down which it can't or the containment field generators are directly destroyed. This is probably how the AQS goes critical in the episode "Next Phase". Memory Alpha mentions that the core pressure increases so they have to eject it. Enough of the containment fields must have failed that the ones left were overloading from the power input and strain of compensating for the lost fields. The physical shielding then began to buckle under the pressure and this is the "boom" seen after the core is ejected. Thinking about it perhaps an AQS can be enveloped in sometype of negative warp field. The warp field is suppose to decrease mass as mentioned in the episode "Deja Q". Is something could be done to increase the mass you might be able to shove the AQS back over the point where the Hawking radiation escapes. You would then have a non-power producing AQS. Release the field and you're back to normal output. I'm sure there's a lot of field balancing that goes into play here however energy output is handled.

Odd though, if what I read a couple weeks is still the case... it's going to be run by Telemundo. How do you say live long and prosper in Spanish? And also odd seeing that Telemundo is owned by NBC and CBS owns the rights to Star Trek so competing networks are in this together.

On Aegis, we are beginning a project of building a shipyard which will eventually build a joint Romulan/Federation ship. In this really early stage I have been considering technologies from which side would be the best to adapt. I've thought about these ideas before this project was presented and they seem to hold true.... Romulans Rock! And here is why.... Our first view of the Romulans was in Balance of Terror. At first glance it would seem the Enterprise well outmatched the Bird of Prey. Mr. Scott said as much. But let's look at the facts here. Spock said cloaking was theoretically possible but the energy costs were extreme but that the Romulans must have solved that problem. Chalk ONE up for the Romulans. Then the plasma bolt weapon which turns a federation outpost into dust in 2 shots. Romulans 2, Terrans Zero. Ah, but what about Mr. Scott's words when Kirk asked him if the Enterprise could take on the Romulan Bird of Prey. Scotty said the Bird of Prey's power was purely impulse. In this regard it seemed that the battle was won. But let's stop and think about it. Cloaking device, ultimate weapon, oh...and warp speed... all powered by a little impulse reactor. Yes, warp speed without a warp reactor. The Neutral Zone was described as a 1 light year wide boarder. Unless this episode took place over a years time the Bird of Prey must of made warp speed to even cross the boarder let alone hit multiple outposts. So, okay...you might say Sure, your little scooter may get better millage then my truck but which can go faster? Well, let me tell ya another story. In The Enterprise Incident while attempting to escape the Enterprise heads out at warp 9. We'd seen before the Enterprise nearly shake itself apart when trying to go warp 8. Warp 9 was really putting the petal to the metal. And what of the Romulans, "gaining quickly" were Spocks words. And that was in a second hand Klingon hull. So, warp without a warp reactor...not a problem. Add a warp reactor and you'd better hold on. How about into Next Gen times? Well, the Romulan Warbirds are not as fast as a Galaxy Class ship, that was established in Tin Man. Again, let's look deeper. The size of a Warbird has been questioned but it's somewhere between 1.5 to 2 times the size of a Galaxy Class. It's power source, artificial quantum singularity. So, twice the mass of a Galaxy Class and hauling around a small black hole and still top speed of warp 9.6 . I think it can easily be said that Romulans are the masters of power efficiency. And this is just the intro to what could be a very lengthy essay on Romulan superiority. Feel free to lay down your weapons now and please proceed orderly through the line for Romulan immigration. And we thank you for choosing The Romulan Star Empire as your overlord of choose.