STSF Precip

::wonders who will be the first Star Trek Novelist to tackle the new primeline (bye bye Romulus)...or the new timeline (bye bye Vulcan)::

Thanks for the heads up on the Stones guys. I take it these things have an unlimited capability of use. Hopefully other characters will get to use them. The Shuttle scenes did not help me much with Destiny's size. I liked the idea of Eli's "Keno" photo of Destiny revealing the crew truely did not know what the ship looked like . Destiny has enormous shield strength to replenish herself the way she did. I'll remember that. A good episode. The Special FX shots of Destiny and the shuttle are totally Unlike anything I recall from SG-1 and SG Atlantis. Heck it almost looks like ZOIC's work from BSG. Oops another comparison there! Precip -Still watching

Tachyon that was an impressive post. I give you props for putting such thought into the arguments and opinions of others. I am still watching "Stargate Universe". I still feel a bit more needs to be explained about those Ancient Stones that allow a "swaped body link" to earth. Kroells helped me out with his post some..but these are in finite supply I presume. The scale of "Destiny" herself is still unknown to me. I am not certain if this ship is the same size as the "Hammond" or much larger. If it is much larger...80 people have lots of exploring still to do. One interesting deviation from "Voyager" is the fact the ship is in control of itself. Whether or not this is to continue has yet to be scene..but I find it a "wild card" for each episode. Where is Destiny taking herself next? She needs a lot of work! So I will continue to watch...and comment...maybe warm up. -Precip

Despite my C- Review of the debut, I did watch the first episode and will probably continue to watch SG-U as long as it seems new. I'll give myself a chance to warm to the show. Quick Question for the SG faithful: These Ancients stones that are allowing a form of communication between earth and the Destiny, can someone explain to me where they came from and how the heck they work? -Precip

I stayed up late and watched SG-U as well. And I have to agree with pretty much if not all of what Kitteh said. Having seen that Doctor play the Gaius Baltar role...I was awaiting the word Frak to be used...heck they pulled so much stuff from BSG. And the video game kid wizard reminded me of a fat Wesley Crusher. ::bangs head on desk:: The ship didn't look right for inside for an Ancients Vessel...Sorry SG fans. I speak mostly of the interior. Granted maybe when they get the power back on it will light up more inside. But again I am reminded of the Darker BSG ship setting. And ugh...I sense abuse of "Stock Footage" galore from what I gathered in the pilot since the ship's going to be in FTL quite a bit. This show has much ..to improve on. And I still insist I do not see off world scene anything like British Columbia. Grade C- -Precip

Calestorm wins with use of bullshoot. Have at it..... -Precip

I ordered my post shift meal at McDonalds..and the guy threw in a free Oreo McFlurry..with extra Oreo. I was quite surprised and thankful -Precip

I think "Lava" brand soap was the coolest soap of all time. That stuff took everything off your hands, save your skin and nails. -Precip

When I look at the plumbing..and for that matter all of the engineering scenes from the new movie, I feel there was an obvious effort to make it look like you were in an engine or powerplant..to non-trek geeks. And it's size, the director-producers probably wanted to make engineering huge compared to the technobabble/sleek/spiffy engineering scenes we Trek fans have come to know for 25 years. -Precip

US Gross: 222 million. Wow. Boy was I wrong. Haven't found a worldwide figure yet. -Precip PS-The Beastie Boys "Sabatoge" should of been on the Soundtrack!! lol.

Mmmmmm....Twix.. Very good..One of my favorite candies! -Precip

The report from the Warbird Rodan 2 hours earlier was still sending Gravous' head spinning. He was wrong. And he couldn't shake the feeling that misreading intelligence while commanding a major operation the Tal Shiar was performing would send him to his grave. Potentially literally. The Warbird Rodan, while operating cloaked had detected an odd signal emanating well outside the Romulan star system. Shorlty after the signal two vessels had decloaked. One a Romulan shuttle, the other a Federation Starship..Nebula Class. The Nebula resumed it's cloak and left the shuttle behind. Gravous grasped the armrests on his chair. He thought Manticore was out of commission, he thought they would send the less experienced, impetuous Wolfe to do the extraction. He thought the extraction of the Federation team would be take place in the Romulan Star System proper. He had even commanded all nearby Tal Shiar vessels to converge around Romulus and irradiate space with enough EM radiation to make a cloaked vessel glow. But he found nothing, he was wrong. Additionally he had placed the Romulan search fleet out of position to catch the Manticore. Manticore now had a head start home and the Warbirds under his command would be unable to catch the fleeing vessel. The closest vessel, the Rodan, was busy recovering the Shuttle the Federation team had used to escape. Command had given orders to Gravous and his wayward fleet to head to the Neutral Zone at Maximum warp. Command had also informed the Ordinary forces of the Romulan Navy of the infiltration and to set up a picket near the Neutral Zone. This action was a humiliation to the Tal Shiar..and Gravous was at the center of it. He was wrong and he would pay a heavy price for this failure. His failure.

Come to think about it...this cat does look really P'd! -Precip

Ladies and Gentlmen, we have done it. May I introduce this unique crossbreed......The Tribbeh.

Frak, I wish I were talented enough to learn how to design and make my own starship! Nice work! The tail vaguely reminds me of Babylon 5's White Stars. -Precip

Valid points. I guess they (Producers, ILM) just wanted to drive ship freaks like me crazy with so many new designs. Just like in "First Contact". Akira is still king in my opinion...but I digress. -Precip

Check out that ship: Now, a ship question to throw out there for all the ship lovers - Hey Precip! I'm lookin' at ya! :-D In the scene were all the ships are scrambling to warp away from the Earth station dock, to the left hand side of the screen, there is a starship that to me at a glance (it's only on screen for two seconds, if that) looks like a cross between an Akira class and a Prometheus class, with four nacelles? Any theories? Anyone find the class of ship anywhere official? I'm not normally into ship class, but this Akira/Prometheus hybrid looking ship or whatever has my curiosity up. Holiday Weekend: According to comcast/yahoo articles, the Trek 2009 film has now made $191 million, and has whooshed past Angels and Demons for the third place highest grossing film of the Memorial weekend. yikes! There are not many pictures on the web from the movie yet. So I can't recall exactly the ship you are refering too! :( One website I found has a picture of the giant space station with all the Vulcan rescue fleet ships docked. The author pointed out 4 different ship classes in one shot Including Enterprise.. Add the Kelvin and the movie introduced , possibly six types of Federation Starships..heck that beats out First Contact! The only problem is the image has the ships way to small! Until the DVD comes out I am afraid there will be a lot of ship speculation for the time being. I will say this, In another shot one of the ships certainly pays homage to the Miranda class.. -Precip "200 million gross within reach woohooo!!"

Yes I believe Aliana Lucindak was referring to the ship's warp field becoming unbalanced with the loss of a Nacelle. I want to say (I might be wrong), that on "Enterprise" they managed to maintain warp at a much slower speed with just one Nacelle operating..but it required a repair job to keep her going. Now, one would think that a Single Nacelle vessel would just be used on short missions. If the nacelle failed, help would be nearby. However, The Kelvin sure was a big ship for short mission. I got the impression she wasn't on one in the movie. -Precip

I guess I must be old if I can remember the original "Land of the Lost" TV show. Seeing it on SCI-FI today is brings back memories of Sleestaks and Chaka's. No Will Ferrell in these shows. -Precip

Happy Birthday Captain! May you and your Jeep continue to prosper! -Precip

The above post has my vote..lol -Precip

I have bought one Toy Enterprise NCC-1701, and two Burger King Glasses from the new movie. No doubt someone around here has spent more.

"Interrogation and investigative report findings from the Echo Lab Facility sir." The junior officer handed Commander Gravous the data plate and quickly departed. Gravous read the report and marveled what it appears the Federation had pulled off. And much to the chagrin of the Tal Shiar Officer it wasn't clear yet exaclty what the Federation was doing. It was one thing to insert an operative or two, but a dozen? An entire team?, Undetected to the medical crisis facility dealing with the plague that so threatened his people? The team had left two centurions dead, a missing doctor; and a disruptor blasted lab in their wake. It would of been easy to say the Federation was just making good on it's work. Planting a deadly virus weeks earlier via a caputured operative..which rapidly spread through some of the ranks of the Tal Shair to the general population. It was an act the Tal Shair had concluded would significantly weaken the Romulan Star Empire to peace talks with the Federation. At least that's what his superiors believed. Gravous did not. "Subcommander T`dos....remind me of my favorite axiom regarding the United Federation of Planets, please" T'dos nearby on the bridge of the Warbird Corvus quickly replied.."The United Federation of Planets is an organization of pacifists who act through diplomacy of the most heavy handed means" "Thank you Subcommander". His axiom conflicted with his superior's beliefs that the Federation was responsible for the deadly plague. Biowarfare is not "diplomacy". There was another race that excelled in bio-engineering and that race was the Klingons. Gravous forced himself not to spit on the deck of his ship at the thought of what they had done in his mind. "Heavy handed means" could however apply to the Federation inserting a covert operations team of such a size and scope to analyize what was happening on Romulus and determine if it was a threat to their own security. That would require a Starship to deliver the team through the neutral zone, and onto Romulus. That had to be done by a cloaked vessel. Tal Shiar intelligence had the names of two possible vessels in the Federation fleet..that had the capability. Gravous looked at the file plates....USS Manticore and USS Babylon. The Federation's most covert operating vessels. But yet two different commanders...one an up and comming officer...aggressive. The other more experienced, tactful. The Empire had dealt with Manticore and her crew years earlier, and they had proved most resilient to interrogation. The Babylon was a newer vessel yet to be deployed in the Federation fleet.. Gravous reclined in his command chair. It all pointed to Manticore except one critical thing. A source within the Inspector General's office of the Federation collaberated reports of Manticore's commanding officer..Admiral Atragon being severely injured in some sort of a collision involving Manticore and another Federation vessel. Manticore, Gravous surmised upon reading the report...would be out of commission. Her senior officer...unable to lead a team of such a daring event. So the Babylon was the vessel Gravous concluded that had inserted the covert team into Romulan Space. And based on the file of this officer..one Adriane Wolf...Babylon was probably cloaked very near Romulus awaiting the arrival of the stolen Transport on the ground. "Commander Gravous! Pursuit craft have lost the Shuttle on their scopes" Subcommander T`dos literally screamed across the deck. "Acknowldeged..Ready Battlestations and begin an all out scan of the Area the shuttle disappeared in" Gravous replied calmly. "My Guess is we shall find one overconfident starship right in orbit of Romulus, with a "veruul" of a Federation Captain wanting a promotion for this act." T`dos nodded and complied with the orders as Gravous spun his chair around. Adrian Wolfe..prepare to have your up and coming career ended in plain sight of Romulus. The Tal Shair Commander grinned in anticipation of the event, snd interrogating Adrian Wolfe beyond the limits.

Ah thank you for the full Ivanova Quotes. My opinion...she's the best XO ever of Sci-Fi (edging out Saul Tigh of BSG) And now for something completely different.... I felt my first Earthquake in quite sometime last week here in SoCal. They give you (well me I mean) like an adrenaline rush when the shaking first starts...and then you kinda ride it out. Hope we get no more of them...yet I decieve myself there. -Precip

Okay I like to talk about simpler things...like the ship! As always... Uh when Scotty Ejected the Enterprise's power supply..I thought it looked like a six cylinder engine of a car having its pistons flushed out into space? Engineering on the ship was so crude..I thought..maybe these producers want to cast "engineering" like the engineering of a car? Also of note...whatever was ejected was not one item but several. I could not tell (I've seen the movie only twice) if was simply the antimatter....or more logically several mintiure Matter-Antimatter cores (a.k.a. simpleton's speak The Enterprise's cylinders) from the ship. Note they were traveling ..in the horizontal away from the ship. That's something different than I am used to seeing. Now away from technobabble to more real world stuff.. This movie scored with it's primary target audience....Those who were not necessarily Trek fans. The gross for the second weekend was in the 40 million range ....something the Wolverine movie could not do. Word of mouth is its a fun movie for all and not just US geeks who are going to see it anyways. That's what they had to have happen. 200 million domestic gross seems likely, which should green light a sequel. Which will make me happy. For I made the wrong call on this one..it's no Lost in Space remake. There's a future for this new cast. Precip