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Festivus pole, feats of strength, airing of grievances...

It says you're old.

Did we ever find the remains of the USS Wesley Crusher?

Janeway was in unknown, possibly hostile territory. Her character should have been one of extreme caution, not a polyanna trying to make friends with the universe. My problem with Torres is if they were going to make her into the tough girl character then they should have done it! She should have been Ellen Ripley with ridges and instead we got someone looking she just got done with a beauty contest. Trading Kes for Seven was a good move even if she didn't have boobs. (Can I say boobs here? Well I just did so too late now.). Kes just wasn't an interesting character. Seven had a lot to work with being an ex-Borg and all. Plus they gave her plots that addressed Anika's strengths, not just a generic ex-Borg's.

They don't even talk about other assignments they've had, just that Kirk got hazed by Finnegan.

Even still Spock is the only one they showed growing in his role. Everyone else except Chekov who joined in the middle and Sulu for one episode as a physicist they portrayed as having done that current role at that current rank for years.

People tease without provocation. There is often no logic behind it. To expect there will be is missing the point. Should they have teased Spock about the calls he made? No. They were rooted in logic. So what? Teasing isn't supposed to be logical. That's why it's teasing.

I think you missed that they were teasing him.

Why not? I usually make Red Alert noises before firing the torpedos.

Now of course Klingons and Starfleet still fired on each other occasionally after the cease fire, such as Star Trek III, V, VI, and DS9. You could say V and VI were not actions authorized by the Klingon government so they don't count as wars but you can't say that about III and DS9. So what happened to the Organians?

The Empire and Federation were only in shooting wars with each other for very brief periods about a century apart. The rest of the time it was like the Cold War with both sides maneuvering for advantage without firing shots. What the Organians did was force a cease fire. Later on there was reference to an Organian treaty so we can deduce the cease fire was made more formal. The conference we saw at Kittomer made this permanent which gave the Klingons what they needed, one less border to defend, so they could turn their resources inward. It does seem they were able to quickly reestablish themselves on Kronos after having to evacuate it.

The dinosaurs may indeed have been developing higher brain functions. However, that means nothing without the anatomy to use it. You need opposible thumbs to make and use tools (you also need a reason to use tools), if you are staying in one location you need to be small enough to farm, your digestive system must accomodate meat and plants so you aren't dependent on a single food source, and if you are trying to start a fire (again, you need a reason for fire) it helps to not be completely covered in hair. That's why our apelike ancestors didn't mess with fire until we were showing some skin.

I'm sure they already have, given his next project is Episode VII. What makes this incarnation of Khan work for this movie (but not the franchise) is... He isn't really the bad guy. It wasn't his idea to work for Starfleet and to build the Vengeance. It was Admiral Markus's, and he was using Khan as a pawn - a fully knowledgeable pawn but still a pawn. Khan was also under duress because he couldn't know if the other Augments were alive or dead. Even if he refused to cooperate there were 72 others who might have. Markus drew first blood, or at least he let Khan think he did. Khan responded in kind. He really didn't even make a move against Kirk or the Enterprise until Scotty phasered him. But what next? The Federation knows his super blood can bring back humans, tribbles, and who knows what else - and this Federation clearly doesn't have the ethics the Prime one did. What will they do with this new super blood? Probably something shocking to our sensibilities but perfectly normal to theirs. Klingons are ramping up for war, the Federation hasn't recovered from the loss of Vulcan or the decimation of Starfleet by Nero. They are desperate.

It was 4 years between The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. It didn't seem to hurt the franchise (and Tom Hardy needed time to bulk up after playing a Picard clone). People will wait and maybe not even notice the time if it is a quality product. The problem with Trek is the fans wanted output at a diarrhea pace and that's what we got.

They could always pick up where the 5-year mission ends. That would be a way around the ageing / production thing. We don't really need details of that mission since it is already covered by TOS and TAS. The fastness of the battles shouldn't be a concern. Remember, they were going up against ships that were vastly superior. The Narada was a few years away from being a 25th century ship and some of that technology made it into the Vengeance. I'll grant the huge saucer made no sense on a ship that supposedly had spartan living conditions and could be operated by one person if need be but perhaps this was to support a large occupation force. At any rate we are used to bloated saucers from the Enterprise-D, and the Excellsior class looked exactly like a pizza cutter.

Oh yeah, the next film needs to have an obviously pregnant Carol Marcus, and lots of on-screen speculation of who the father is since she isn't married, but all the speculation stops when Kirk enters the room.

Yeah, that's another thing. Enterprise, with a damaged warp core and an acting chief, went from the Neutral Zone to the Federation capital world in a matter of minutes, and the Vengeance was even faster than that. You can pretend it took them a couple hours to get there, but the dialogue left no possibility of a trip that long getting back. Sorry, but there is no way info of the Narada and the Jellyfish could have made it into production that quickly even with Kahn's help. It took most of Kirk's time at the Academy just to build the Enterprise. The Vengeance is over twice that size and they had only been at it a year based on when Khan was thawed out.

OK, according to Memory Alpha Kirk was put into cryosleep in one of Khan's cryosleep units. So what happened to the Augment that was already in that tube.

One more: * Kirk wasn't just saved from death. He did actually die. I don't care how powerful Khan's genetics are. He was not a biological Genesis Torpedo capable of reanimating dead life. Once your brain becomes oxygen-starved that's it. Your corpse is cold enough to walk over. Cumberbatch is an awesome actor, but he should have been given another character to play. I predicted that bringing Khan back, especially in a way that can not be reconciled to canon no matter how hard you try, would indicate the new writers were out of ideas already. I do get that they are trying to make Khan like The Joker, meaning sooner or later the opposite numbers are going to fight. They could have made Khan as different as the different Joker and Batman incarnations if they were going for a reimagining like the new BSG. However, Abrams said these new movies would not be reimaginings but would respect established canon or at least have an in-universe explanation for changing it. Don't get me wrong, it is a great popcorn flick. Well worth the money to see (although I couldn't tell any difference between 3D and regular versions). But if Abrams wanted to go with a reimagining he could have said so from the beginning. He wouldn't have lost any of his audience. Trekkies might complain but ultimately they will watch *anything*. Nemesis and Enterprise proved that.

Spoilers (for the two of you who haven't seen it yet): * Khan is supposed to be an Indian played by a Mexican. This new one is so white he is British. * From Robocop to Terra Prime to Into Darkness Peter Weller is getting more hair the older he gets. * Into Darkness is set in the year 2259. Klingons don't get their ridges back until at least 2268. They should still look like a young Count Baltar and that guy who looked and acted like Liberace. * The USS Vengence is pretty badass. The only other ship we've seen that can fire weapons at warp is the Scimitar. * They are really overdoing the emotional Spock thing. Plus shouldn't Kirk have not been allowed to be Captain again because of emotional compromise? * New Kirk only seems to have sex with aliens. He couldn't even have sex with Carol Marcus. He better hurry up because his son David is supposed to be born in 2261. * Spock Prime's role serves no purpose. All he did is tell New Spock that Khan is dangerous and not to be trusted. Well gee, he already destroyed a building, several senior officers, and a platoon of Klingons almost single handed. New Spock still needed a character judge?

To boldly go where they have already gone twice before.

The problem with tractor beams is some old damn Jedi with a death wish is always trying to shut them down.

How can you have Xerxes without Leonitas?

Hold on... A Jewish temple has been dated to 10,000 BC? That's at least 2,000 years older than the universe. ::rolls eyes::